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Hello All,
 
My name is Timothy Guinn and I am currently trying to find information on my great-uncle SGT. Isaac L. Isbell. So far in the research that I have collected I know that he was the gunner in the 829th Bombardment Squadron, 485th Bombardment Group, 15th Air Force. My grandmother told me what little she knew of what happened to him 5 years ago when I myself joined the U.S. Air Force. His crew unfortunately paid the ultimate sacrifice on 9/21/1944 and they have a headstone at Jefferson Barracks Memorial Cemetary in St. Louis. I also know that on that day the 829th was flying it's 65th mission in Yogoslavia, which is where my grandmother said they went down, so im assuming this information is correct. This unfortunately is where the information stops flowing, and so I am basically looking for any information on what aircraft they flew, Tail Number, Name of the Aircraft and of course what happened to them on that fatefull day. Below is a list of SGt. Isbell's crew members.
 
Anderson William E 2nd Lt 0-825534 829th Co pilot Sneden, Arthur Clasen Robert C Cpl 37555327 829th Engineer Sneden, Arthur Evans John C Cpl 34794588 829th Gunner Sneden, Arthur Harrison Adolphus H Sgt 14090873 829th Gunner Sneden, Arthur Isbell Isaac L Sgt 34398015 829th Gunner Sneden, Arthur Latham Everett G 2nd Lt 0-723636 829th Navigator Sneden, Arthur Scherr Howard M Pvt 6282209 829th Gunner Sneden, Arthur Schneck Raymond E Cpl 15080866 829th Radio Opr Sneden, Arthur Sneden Arthur P 2nd Lt 0-822560 829th Pilot Sneden, Arthur Weiss  August L 2nd Lt 0-703543 829th Bombardier Sneden, Arthur
 
If any of the above men were relative of yours or if you have relatives associated with the 829th, I would greatly appreciate in information you may be able to give me. I would also love to have some old photos and stories, if possible,  of my great-uncle as I am doing this, not only since SGT. Isbell is my great uncle and I have a kinship as a fellow Airman, but also to provide information to SGT. Isbell's son, Gary, who was only a few months old when his father died.
 
I would greatly appreciate any information any of you can provide.
 
Sincerely,
 
Timothy Guinn

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    jpeters140
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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/23 17:44:55 (permalink)
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    Timothy...I suggest you contact the 485th BG Association.

    There is new contact info for the 485th BG Association and a new website.  For information about 485th reunions, please contact Lynn Cotterman, Treasurer, at lyncott@juno.com.  For requests for historical information and research, please contact Jerry Whiting, Historian, at EAJWWhiting@aol.com.  Please see the new official 485th BG Association website for other contact information at www.485thbg.org

    Jim :-)

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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/23 17:58:38 (permalink)
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    Thank you so much for you help Sir! I expected days before I recieved a reply.
     
    I will contact the historian immediatley!
     
    HOORAY for fellow Airman!
     
     
     
     
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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/23 20:23:12 (permalink)
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    B24J-5-FO /  42-50885
     
    Missing Aircrew Report  MACR 8745
     
    Go to this websites mainpage and click on " Research Help " at top to see how to obtain a copy of the MACR

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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/23 22:32:52 (permalink)
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    The MACR does not have very much more to offer
     
    I'd be glad to send it to you if you don't have it already.
     
    Mark

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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/24 07:27:50 (permalink)
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    PIC and more info on "885"...
    http://www.b24bestweb.com/Pics-880-899.htm

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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/24 17:34:46 (permalink)
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    WOW! Great info. I never thought that I would get the MACR.

    Was the Aircraft ever found?
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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/24 18:36:01 (permalink)
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    I should also point out a disconnect in the info and the picture of 42-50885 on B24bestweb.  The pic there states it crash-landed after two engine failures shortly after take-off, and pilot as Capt. Vern Bryson. MACR 8745.    To the best of my knowledge, in the case of a take-off accident, or one where the wreckage was readily accessible ( to the point of being photographed ), no MACR would be written up, instead it would be an accident report, since the crew would not have been missing.
     
    The info we have from the letter report above, and evidently the MACR, is that the aircraft went missing over the Adriatic, with no known witnesses as to what happened to it, and I would suppose was never found.

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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/29 15:50:22 (permalink)
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    Thank you all so much! I greatly appreciated it.

    I hope I can make the reunion this year and If so see you all there!

    Thank you again!

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    Re:Looking for answers 2010/06/29 17:46:04 (permalink)
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    Dear Tim,
     
    Some years ago on the 50 Anniversary of D Day I came in contact with a man who was with my Uncle Weisel when he was shot on Omaha Beach.
     
    My Aunt never knew anything of her husbands death except the day and place. The man held my Uncle in his arms as he asked for his wife's photo and asked him to let his wife know his last thoughts were of her. For the next 50 years he has searched for her. Our newspaper did a story on D Day and he was interviewed for it. The man remembered his friend was from PA. and hoped someone might read it. He used a nick name my Uncle was know by.
     
    I called the reporter and he put me in touch with the man who now lived in Virginia. I mentioned my Aunt Betty to him. He immediately he said, "Oh that is what Don always called her and in his death "his beloved Betty". In a few days after calling my Aunt the man and Aunt Betty made contact. She was so happy and blessed to know her husband did not die alone, he died being held by Mr. Lipisiki the man who searched for her for 50 years.
     
    I was able to enter my Uncle Don in the World War Veterans Site for my Aunt. She was so happy and after all these years had peace concerning her beloved husbands' death.
     
    I am posting Sgt. Donald Weisel's photo.

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