I am not eager to defend my fellow countrymen and women, but sometimes they were. Not in Groß-Gerau obviously but in the Holledau and in Munich. Lieutenant Herbert Frels and Sergeant Richard C. Travers both survived because people had a feeling for right or wrong. The question in the very case is always: which chance did they have, in Groß-Gerau and Rüsselsheim maybe to stand up against 200 or 300 people. As far as I remember there was someone in Rüsselsheim who warned to go a certain way. But if the guards with the rifles escorted them to go this way which opportunity should an air man have in this moment? Beeing shot while trying to escape? These cases deeply depress me. Maybe more than 3 Nazi bastards who just shot.