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US Airforce base in England during WW2

Discussion in 'Heavy & Very Heavy Bombers' started by Peter Lee Anderson, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. Peter Lee Anderson

    Peter Lee Anderson New Member

    My late father was based in UK during WW2 and the photos attached should give some clue as to where he was stationed and where he may be flying over in picture 6, 7 & 10.
    I have been told that the planes are a B17 and a Consolidated B-24 Liberator (251311)

    I would love to have further information if there is anyone out there with suggestions.

    Many thanks

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  2. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

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  3. terveurn

    terveurn Active Member

    The B-17 was 44-6802 DS-X 351st BG / 511th BS
  4. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    The last photo appears to be Cologne, Germany showing the cathedral and the bombed out bridge beyond it.


    The "circular" layout appears to be some sort of military installation. The buildings appear too "regular" to be a city layout. It does not "appear" to be an airfield.

    The other photo seems to show a site that has been bombed (see bomb craters). It may have been a German radar site or something of that sort.
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  5. Peter Lee Anderson

    Peter Lee Anderson New Member

    Many thanks for your comments. I have ordered the book of WW2 US Aircraft and will be hoping to determine where my late father was stationed whilst in England.
    I have some of his wartime correspondance and it seems that he was in: 861 Air England Squadron, 435 Air Service Group, US Army
  6. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    It makes sense that he might not have been on a combat aircrew as none of the photos show him wearing any type of aircrew wings. The photo of him with a parachute with the B-24 may have been for a check-out flight after some type of repair had been done. The 435th Air Services Group was at Alconbury in 1945. If you read this link about Alconbury, it appears also the 36th BS also was at Alconbury at that time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Alconbury
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  7. buckeyeuk

    buckeyeuk Member

    Peter. There are 2 documents available on the 435thASG from the AFHRA ( see links at the bottom of Rolland's WIKI link). They were at Alconbury right near the end of the war ( April). The maintenance and repair unit was actually adjoining Alconbury at Abbots Ripton, Station 547.
    He may have been taking a ride over Germany later as did many ground crews from June; at Alconbury, 44 flights in the month.
    251311 was R4--T and had "JOSTLE Mk.V" radio jamming equipment installed in place of the ball turret as did 251315.
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  8. Peter Lee Anderson

    Peter Lee Anderson New Member

    I am so glad that I joined this website and am most grateful for the information that has been given to me. Having a number of wartime photos without information and details has always been frustrating for me.
  9. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    Peter, buckeyeuk makes a good point about the site-seeing flights given to ground crews after the war ended. The aerial photos (of Cologne and the other locations) may have been taken at that time. The Cologne photo was taken at a relatively low altitude and probably with a regular hand held camera. So, not likely taken when fighting was still occurring.
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  10. Peter Lee Anderson

    Peter Lee Anderson New Member

    Hi Nick - I have been unable to find the 2 documents you mentioned - would you kindly give me the link for these.
  11. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    Peter, start on this page: http://airforcehistoryindex.org/

    and enter in the search field: 0435 Air Service Group

    You get 12 hits, the last 9 are for the Group you seek (each covers a different month apparently two volumes for each month.)


    Note that it appears all of the items are on the same reel (2044) which probably means they are all on a single CD.
    Thus you probably only need to order one $30 CD (for reel 2044) to get all of them.

    Note: two of them are given on the wiki Alconbury page. (items 10 and 11 at the bottom).

    Now to order any of these items, you need to follow the ordering instructions given on a link off this page:
    http://airforcehistoryindex.org/obtain.html BUT the address given for ordering is wrong.

    The correct ordering address is AFHRA.NEWS@us.af.mil as is now given on the main AFHRA page here:


    A little confusing..... but it does work.

    The people at AFHRA are most helpful and if you include an explanation that you are trying to get the records of the 435 Air Service Group and think the records all exist on a single CD they can check to see if you only need the one CD. You don't want to pay for the same CD multiple times.
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  12. Peter Lee Anderson

    Peter Lee Anderson New Member

    Many thanks for your in depth reply. Once again I am most grateful for the help.

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