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Trying to find info on my dads b24 that was shot down on 4/4/44 on a mission

Discussion in 'All Hands Club & Canteen Discussion Area' started by Conrad Leo, Aug 14, 2017.

  1. Conrad Leo

    Conrad Leo New Member

    My dad William J. Leo Jr was shot down over Bucharest Hungary on 4/4/1944. below is a list of the crew , and serial number. Not sure of the Plane name (black Saturday?). Trying to find crash report and any other info, squad number etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


    Bucharest, Hungary, April 4, 1944

    42-40661 Black Saturday Brown, L. J. Crashed

    42-40661 Black Saturday D- 85-CO


    Bucharest, Hungary, April 4, 1944

    --------- Brown's crew

    Officers
    Brown, Lawrence J. 806205 Pilot
    Athenas, Joseph E. 684828 Co-pilot
    Leo, Jr., William J. 814355 Navigator
    Simonson, Robert W. 673746 Bombardier

    Enlisted
    Hill, Elton J. 11117116 Engineer, Dept 748
    Lanphear, William H. 16088509 Radio Operator, Dept 757
    Schorzman, Maurice A. 39905090 Tail Turret, Dept 748
    Moffet, Donald W. 33117047 Asst. Eng, Dept 748
    Atchison, William H. 17099906 Radio Operator, Dept 757
    White, Raymond O. 39078580 Armorer, Dept 612
     
  2. Parker

    Parker Member

    Report is available. Was with the 376th bomb group, 514th squadron. No aircraft name shown on report. Report is only a few pages with minimal details beyond identifying the crew. MACR # 3878
     
  3. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    The plane is listed as "Black Saturday" from the 376th BG here: http://www.armyaircorps-376bg.com/b-24-liberator.html

    As Parker notes, there is no name listed on the MACR (they did not always list names).

    It was in the 514th BS. The MACR is quite short (7 pages). Part of the reason for that is because the whole crew survived.


    I can send you the MACR if you PM me your email address. (PM (conversation) sent). The "Dept" you listed are actually MOS codes (Military Occupational Specialty). 612 is Airplane Armorer-Gunner, 748 is Airplane Mechanic-Gunner, 757 is Radio Operator-Mechanic-Gunner.
     
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  4. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Welcome Conrad to this forum. Was your father from Brooklyn NY ?
     
  5. Conrad Leo

    Conrad Leo New Member

    yes he was
     
  6. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    Conrad, the MACR has been sent via wetransfer.
     
  7. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

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  10. Conrad Leo

    Conrad Leo New Member

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  11. Conrad Leo

    Conrad Leo New Member

    any research as to where they took him when they were shot down?
     
  12. Parker

    Parker Member

    POW report doesn't say where he was held, just that he returned to military control on October 23, 1944.


    leo.jpg
     
  13. tothfzs

    tothfzs Member

    "Bucharest, Hungary, April 4, 1944 ."
    Bucharest, not Hungaryan city. Bucharest the capital of Romania. The capital of Hungary Budapest was the target of the US AAF on the previous day. April 3, 1944
     
  14. Conrad Leo

    Conrad Leo New Member

    Thanks for the correction, bad typing... I believe this was part of the raids on Ploesti.
     
  15. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

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    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

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  17. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    Here is the April 4, 1944 AAF Chronology Description of the attack:

    STRATEGIC OPERATIONS (Fifteenth Air Force): 300+ B-17s and B-24s attack
    Bucharest, Rumania; both hit marshalling yards and the B-24s also hit an air
    depot; fighters fly nearly 120 sorties in support of the mission; between 150
    and 200 enemy fighters attack the bombers, shooting down 10; the bombers and
    escorts claim 50+ aircraft destroyed in combat.

    This next link only has the report of the 449th BG for the April 4 attack, but you get some sense of what happened.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Bucharest_in_World_War_II
     
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    Airwar Well-Known Member

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