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Sgt Robert D Brooks found dead in a suitcase .

Discussion in 'All Hands Club & Canteen Discussion Area' started by Raphaël, Apr 25, 2017.

  1. Raphaël

    Raphaël Member

  2. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Apr 26, 2017
  3. Raphaël

    Raphaël Member

    Hello ,

    This memorial video mentions :

    - Record of service : Us Army Air Force - B-17 Ball Turret Gunner/June 14 , 1945 to December 23 , 1946/92nd Air Repair Squadron - Fire Fighter/WWII European Theater of Operations/ 9 Months - 16 Days.
    - There are personal and crew photos in 1.20 min .

     
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  4. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

    This is a very nice memorial for Pfc. Robert D Brooks (at least they reduced his rank from Sargent) escorted by the Patriot Guard Riders. Regardless of anything else he was an AAF veteran deserving of this final respect and memorial service. The manor of his death and how his body was mistreated was a tragedy. Again, no disrespect intended.

    That said, it still seems his service as a ball turret gunner is in question (even with the generic BTG pics in this video) without mention of a bomb group where he served. His recorded service dates only adds to this from 14 June 1945 to 23 December 1946. The war in Europe ended 8 May 1945 so at best he was serving during the occupation period but not likely outside the UK.

    Was not able to find a 92nd Air Repair Squadron in the ETO as of 1 May 1945. There was a 92nd Depot Repair Squadron [44th Air Depot Group] stationed at Stowmarket, England, RAF Wattisham, USAAF Station 377.

    As to these images and how they truly relate to Pfc. Robert D Brooks has not yet been fully explained. Most if not all gunners in the ETO were promoted to Sgt.
    Pfc Robert Brooks video pics.jpg
     

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  5. Raphaël

    Raphaël Member

    Thank you Scott ,

    His military past seems unfortunately so mysterious as its death .
     
  6. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

    Yes Raphaël there seems a factor of family lore involved here. From the Ancestry.com data Pfc. Brooks did only stand 5 feet tall. Had he entered AAF service earlier given his size he may well have ended up in the ball turret. It seems evident Robert D Brooks and his son Jay Brooks were estranged not communicating for over a decade. Maybe his father told stories of being a ball turret gunner, maybe not. Probably not necasary to continue this guessing game too much further, he has passed, was honored for his service, case closed.

    However, the video and its photo montage which includes BTG content seems a disservice to the memory of Pfc. Robert D Brooks if inaccurate or untrue. None of these BTG images offered in this video pictorial montage are actually Pfc. Robert D Brooks anywhere near a BTG but rather generic available across the internet.

    Generic BTG image 1 http://www.performanceimpressions.c...ntent/B-17_Flying_Fortress_opp1117_large.html (and other photo sources)
    [1] B-17_Flying_Fortress_opp1117.jpg
    Generic BTG image 3 https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/how-to-become-a-ball-turret-gunner.335844/ (and other photo sources)
    [3] How to become a ball turret gunner.jpg
    Generic BTG image 5 http://www.ooyuz.com/geturl?aid=11345908 (and other photo sources)
    [5] the-story-of-the-world-war-ii-gunner-who-fell-22000-feet-without-a-parachute-and-lived.png

    Also in the earlier Service history image montage someone selected the AAC Pfc rank which included a propeller. This rank SSI was discontinued long before Pfc. Brooks entered the AAF service. So much of this is assumed to be someones best guess as to service, not actual Pfc. Brooks memorabilia.
    1920s aircorps pfc rank SSI.jpg

    Of further consideration Pfc. Robert D Brooks is not here to defend himself or this proposed AAF service record. This may well be a case of his son Jay Brooks overcompensating after more than a decade of neglect in not keeping in communication with his father. A lessen learned for the rest of us if we can, phone home to your mom and dad regularly they don't last forever.
     
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  7. Raphaël

    Raphaël Member

    Excellent Scott , you confirmed my analysis , anyway honor and respect for Pfc Robert Brooks an may he rest in peace .

    Raphaël .
     
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  8. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Raphael thank you for sharing tis video. Iam always emontional to see this clips and Iam glad that their
    names are not forgotten. THANK YOU USA, so we can live in freedom.
    May GOD having mercy with this Great Soldiers.

    Jaap
     
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  9. Raphaël

    Raphaël Member

    Thank you to you Jaap and all members of this site for the work of memory for these Great Soldiers .
     
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