Discussion in '467th BG - Rackheath' started by S.Pockey, May 2, 2017.
Yes, he was also known as 'Mac' Pockey.
Could it be possible that he was assigned to this crew after VE-Day but prior to VE-Day could he have not been assigned to a crew and yet still have flown on missions? Did they have such things as stand-by's or something?
My comments in that post were speculation based on dates shown in an earlier post. The current working theory regarding missing data on the web site we were using as a source makes that speculation less likely. We still have a long way to go before nailing this down with any certainty. Records held at the Archives in Virginia would likely hold the answers.
When I look that the individual page for Pockey, the 29 May 45 date is for RZI orders which I "think" means that on that date the orders came down for the Pockey (and crew) to Return to the Zone of the Interior (i.e. return to the US.).
(You can click on the names in post 5 to get to the individual page. They all seem to be the same)
Thus the 29 May 45 date may not be the date they were assigned to the 467th (or to a BS within the group) but rather when they (probably with many others) were ordered to return. It may well be that the records for the 467th don't show when they arrived. Since they seem to have been in England in February, they may well have gotten to the BG and flown some missions before the war ended.
You guys are fantastic! I was just at a memorial for my Great Uncle Bill (William Keneally) who was also in the Army Air Corps during WWII. He was a B-25 Pilot and served in the Pacific theater. I found out that he flew around 60 missions and I believe he was shot down over an island at one point. I realized though, that my family history is being lost because we aren't documenting any of this history. My father passed away back in 1983 and I want to try to capture his history for my children. My father's brother James (mentioned in the PDF files attached in this thread is still alive (he is 97 years old and in great shape). He also served in the war as a medic stationed in England (I have a picture of my dad and him together in England). I am trying to find that photo so I can post it.
At some point I want to try to find out my Uncle Bill's information as well. He didn't like talking about his time in the war so I wan to at least find out as much as I can on my own. As for my Uncle Jim, I will try to get his story before he passes. I know he went to the Anniversary in DC a couple of years ago.
Having served in the United States Marine Corps myself ('84 - '88), I believe that it is vital that their legacy lives on for future generations.
Again, I really cannot thank you all enough.
Was your Uncle William B Kenealy? I can find a MACR or (part of one) for the loss of a B-25 42-32262, 38th BG with him listed a co-pilot. After bailing out, all of the crew eventually made it back to base except one. I can send it to you if you want. Some pages are very dark and in poor condition, hard to read. The name is written as "Kenealy" in the report, even though pacific wrecks has it with two "l".
For those with fold3 access, MACR starts here: https://www.fold3.com/image/28597528
Yes, William B Kenealy was my uncle. Thank you so much!
Was your uncle Bill from the DC area? Have a son named Bill who went to Notre Dame in the '60s??
Likely your uncle Bill's original enlistment 12 March 1942, ASN: 12073957 https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record...&tf=F&q=12073957&bc=sl&rpp=10&pg=1&rid=538337
William B. Kenealy, Pennsylvania, Veteran Comp. App. Overseas service 19 July 1943 to 26 August 1944, 1 year, 39 days.
William Bernard Kenealy Selective Service Card
William Bernard Kenealy folded his wings 7 November 2016, age 98. No findagrave memorial found. His obituary is available here http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/potterleaderenterprise/obituary.aspx?pid=182505339 and attached PDF
Kenealy 1940 Census attached.
No, my Uncle Bill was from Coudersport / Roulette PA area.
Got a lot of input...and explaining to do here.
First, the official website for the 467th is in disarray and, unfortunately, we've (the 467th BG Association) had trouble getting access to redesign and make updates. The email addresses are most likely all old and non-functional. The best way to make contact at this time with the active members of the Association is through the Groups Facebook page. There have been efforts to make contact with the inactive member who has "control" of the site, however, we've had no luck to date. I'm hoping we'll resolve this at our upcoming reunion when all the directors and board members will be present.
I noticed some references to the 467bg-research.com site. That site is mine. While it is publicly accessible it is very much a work in progress (and not ready for "primetime"). Essentially it's the public interface to the database that holds the contents of the 467th BG Association archives (photo's, official documents, and veterans memoirs/stories/diaries) . While it holds the most accurate and up-to date information, it is "woefully" incomplete at this time. I'm "flying solo" on this and have so much left to do. Please be patient. I apologize for any inconvenience that might have occurred when referencing information that's contained on the site. I'll put a note on the home page about the current status. Also, it is slow because it's hosted on a server at my house for now. Not great (upload) bandwidth. I'll move to a better location when the "time is right". BTW: Lucky Partner, you mentioned the layout is "quirky". If you don't mind, please PM me and let me know your thoughts. I'm very willing to listen to comments and criticisms. I definitely want to make it as user friendly as possible (given certain design "philosophies" )
RSwank referenced information on that site relating to the RZI for Massimo Pockey. The date of Operations Order #52 was 29 May 45 as a result of the Movement Orders for Shipment 10060, File No. 370.5 OPCC Dated 27 May 1945. Massimo Pockey departed Rackheath on 10 June 45 as the radio operator for K. L. Kinsley's crew. They did fly B-24H-25-FO '100 Proof' 42-95154 on the return trip. At the time of his return to the zone of interior his rank was Staff Sergeant and had an MOS of 'E-0757 - Radio Operator - Mechanic Gunner, AAF'.
Lucky Partners has referenced the entire crew manifest for the crew's RZI. Once again....so much work left to do. For RZI "missions" the "Attack Data", "Bombing Data", and "Other Data" tabs, along with the "MIA", "WIA", "KIA", POW", and "Interned" columns won't be visible. None-the-less, that is accurate information regarding the crews manifest for the RZI.
Regarding B-24H-25-FO '100 Proof' 42-95154, while not an original aircraft to the 467th, she did arrive shortly after the Group arrived in March 44. She first flew missions in May 44 and was fortunate to survive hostilities and RZI. She, kind of, got "bounced around" between squadrons. Originally she was assigned to the 790th BS. She was transferred to the 791st BS between 5 Oct 44 and 10 Nov 44. She flew again with the 790th BS until 16 Jan 45 when she was finally assigned to the 789th BS for the remainder of hostilities. I haven't received the history card for this aircraft yet so I'm unsure of the project number, and therefore Bomb Group to which she was originally assigned. The nose art is thought to have been applied in the states prior to arriving in the ETO. The armor plate is a field modification that was done once the aircraft arrived in the theater of operations. As was often the case, they were applied over any existing nose art. Sometimes, the nose art was "repaired" by the ground crews but that was not the case with '100 Proof'. I'm unsure of her mission total at this time (please reference above explanation concerning "flying solo" and amount of work yetto be done). Note that 25Kingman49 mentioned the RCL's (per Tom Britten). I can confirm that with the 791st it was indeed 'G', and with the 789th is was indeed 'E'. I haven't run across an 790th BS RCL associated with her yet.
S. Pockey, that is a very nice piece of information you posted. It is indeed the 'Radio Log' from when your father arrived at Bradley Field in Windsor Locks, Connecticut (which was the destination for all the air crews returning to the states). I've always wondered how long it took the crews to fly home. Looks like they arrived late on 14 June 45. Note there was a stopover at the RAF base at Valley, Wales. BTW: RSwank "nailed" it with the A/C box.
Finally, I've attached Massimo Pockey's mission list. It's rather brief. He flew 5 missions between 19 Mar 45 and 30 Mar 45. Not sure why this crew didn't fly any missions in April of 45. Took a quick look at some of the other crews to see if he might have flown a mission (or two) with another crew but I didn't see any evidence. His crew is as follows:
Pilot - Kenneth L. Kinsley
Co Pilot - Robert O. Gose (flew on three of the five missions)
Navigator - Frank W. Haight
Toggler (Nose Turret) - Benjamin W. Sandercook
*Most crews of the 467th did not carry a Bombardier by this time of the war. They would drop when Lead Ships dropped. Pilots preferred another gunner vs a bombardier.
Engineer - Edward M. Misialko
Waist Gunner (Right) - Robert R. Masters
Waist Gunner (Left) - Joseph J. Nackman (Appears to have transferred to the 790th BS)
Tail Turret Gunner - Frank O. Dudley
S. Pockey. I would highly recommend becoming a member of the 467th Facebook page. It's very active and many second and third generations (including a few of the vets) are members.
Lastly, not sure if it's my place to apologize, however, I realize the 467th's web presence is a bit of a mess at the moment. Andy Wilkinson's site (http://the467tharchive.org) is definitely the best. The official site (www.467bg.com) is very dated, and parts are non-functional, however, there is valid information contained within. Hopefully we'll fix it soon. Mine (www.467bg-research.com) is in it's infancy (although I do have high aspirations for it). In addition, Fred Holdridge (790th BS Commanding Officer) has a site dedicated to the 790th BS. He passed away just this last year (age 100), however, his site is still up (although a bit "broken" in spots). His son has confirmed it will stay accessible for some time to come. The best way to access it is here http://fred790.tripod.com/01790.htm.
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