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Discussion in 'All Hands Club & Canteen Discussion Area' started by one1, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. pathfinder504

    pathfinder504 Active Member

    The Lt Harold Sperber from Port Clinton, OH, is a friend of mine. He was co-pilot of the Pathfinder C-47 (Chalk 4) on the Normandy mission that ingested flak on the run in between the Channel Islands and turned back out into the Channel to try to make it to England. Wound up ditching in the Channel and was shortly picked up by the HMS TARTAR. All survived. The Tribal Class destroyer HMCS HAIDA on display in Toronto was in the same screening force of four destroyers.
     
  2. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Jason,glad you answer my call to go to this Forum.

    Jaap Vermeer MDE
     
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  3. BMBazooka

    BMBazooka Well-Known Member

    I love the home coming photo!
     
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  4. Jason Sperber

    Jason Sperber New Member

    Thank you for the welcome. I dont have much else to tell you. He jumped from the nose of the plane, parachuted down and was brought into the belgium underground. He lived a very happy healthy life until he passed away at 91 from organ failures and heart failure. Unfortunately he died a few months prior to my wedding. He was honored while we were there though. Harold (Papa), was a good man, very smart, and loved baseball. His wife (My Nana), is still alive and living in NJ. IF you have an interest in hearing more about it, I suggest you contact me privately either through private message or email so I may see if she wants to get in touch herself.
     
  5. terveurn

    terveurn Active Member

  6. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Dave,
    Top photo is new to me, with the Amblève river in the background.
     
  7. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

    Back to one1's original query, here is 1st Lt. John C. Broom in the Fuller Crew, 836BS, 487BG
    FullerCrew, 1st Lt. John C. Broom (bombaradier).jpg
    Fuller Crew - 836th Squadron
    Back row L to R: 1st Lt. John C. Broom (bombaradier), 2nd Lt.Neil E. Brown (navigator), 2nd Lt. Wilburn E. Furr (copilot), 2nd Lt. Edgar Lee Fuller (pilot)
    Center L to R: S/Sgt. Willard A. Green (tail-gunner), Sgt. Frederick E. Hernly (gunner), S/Sgt. Hudie E. Graves (ball-turret gunner)
    Front row L to R: S/Sgt. Arthur Massey (radio operator), S/Sgt. Hewitt J. Dickenson (flight engineer) T/Sgt. Charles E. Tigh (gunner)
    (photo provided by John W. Broom, son of John Broom, bombardier)
    (Identification supplied by Charles Tigh)

    1st Lt. John C. Broom
    1st Lt. John C. Broom (bombaradier).jpg

    Source http://www.487thbg.org/Photos/FullerCrew.shtml
    Individual photo here http://www.487thbg.org/Photos/JohnBroom.shtml
    Broom photo collection http://www.487thbg.org/Photos/JBPhoto/JohnBroom.html
     
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  8. BMBazooka

    BMBazooka Well-Known Member

    Its just scholarly interest: I would like to get to know more about the Belgian underground.
    And I am still so touched by the home coming photo.
     
  9. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

  10. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Charles Tigh articles
     

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  11. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Wilburn Furr
     

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  12. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

    FYI; None of the "other" Fuller Crew members were assigned to the Ira L Ball Crew, either during ZI training or when shot down 24 Dec 44 ("they" are not the focus of this thread)
     
  13. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Susanne I will send you in private a few articles of the Belgian Underground.

    Jaap
     
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  14. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

    Interesting review of Belgian underground Nazi resistance here http://www.pbs.org/lastbesthope/programfeature.html an overview for a video "Last Best Hope", still hunting for that online.

    Edit: It seems only the trailer is available, looks like a fascinating story of aid to downed Allied airmen.

    [Way off topic, sorry]: 1st Lt William "Bill" Grosvenor, Jr. 61FS, 56FG, flying mission #109, 30 Nov 1943, bomber escort to Sölingen, Germany, experiences mechanical problems (vapor lock) turns back from mission. Over Belgium the problem fixes itself so he attacks some ground targets near Puurs and is downed by a "low flying telegraph pole" and bails out MACR 1542, 3 pages https://www.fold3.com/image/28689932 (of course at the time the group had no idea of what really happened) Grosvenor is cared for by the Belgium underground EVA element. Eventually is captured by the Nazis in July 1944 becoming a POW but escapes and evades again. Incredibly on 21 July 2001 Grosvenor's Thunderbolt crash site is excavated with much of the plane recovered, with Grosvenor there to witness, see http://users.telenet.be/airwareurope/en/bergingen/thunderbolt_grosvenor_e.htm Sadly these aerial hero's don't live for ever, Bill folded his wings 2 March 2009 http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=34449474 [some moderator should move this post to its own thread, Ha, Ha, Ha...]
     

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  15. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Scott what I send to Susanne,it will be send to you and Hal to. If you dont like it,you can Delete it.

    regards Santa Klaus
     
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  16. 25Kingman49

    25Kingman49 Well-Known Member

    Thank you Santa Claus - Ho Ho Ho; Merry Christmas.
    My mailbox is always open to you Jaap. I look forward to all this Belgium resistance information you can offer, which saved so many airmen. If you have time I would like to learn more about your fathers participation in the Dutch resistance. Hero's all, every last one standing up against Nazi tyranny throughout the hell that was Nazi occupation.

    Scott
     
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  17. Lucky Partners

    Lucky Partners Well-Known Member

    Thank you Santa Klaus, your materials are always appreciated. Merry Christmas Jaap, to you and your family.

    Hal
     
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  18. Lucky Partners

    Lucky Partners Well-Known Member

    jason,

    It is strongly suggested that you refrain from posting your telephone numbers and / or e-mail addresses in the open Forum. This site is trolled continuously by bots of every sort. So unless you desire to find yourself on the receiving end of spam, etc. I'd suggest you remove the information you just posted.
     
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