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Bracelet

Discussion in 'Uniforms, Medals, and More' started by alicand, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. alicand

    alicand New Member

    P1090364.jpg DSCF2878.jpg Hello,
    I made the acquisition of this bracelet .Despite many research both on the classbook cadet to find that she could belong I have nothing found. In the archives of the Nara the ASN reference me often toward the WASP
    Would somebody have an idea?
    Thanks in advance

    André
     
  2. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Jan 27, 2016
  3. pathfinder504

    pathfinder504 Active Member

    The seven numeral service number beginning with 70 indicates a pre-war regular soldier---before the draft.

    The NARA database searches 8-digit numbers ...so insert a place-holder number 0 like this: 07033123
     
  4. alicand

    alicand New Member

    Thank you for the information. To all two
    in the research I was not too wrong in thinking of a woman.
    Pathfinder504 Can you explain to me the procedure for the numbers of the ASN and more particularly the second 3 added in the middle.
    0703 3 123
    Thank you again

    André
     
  5. pathfinder504

    pathfinder504 Active Member

    The old time numbers are a mystery to me. The earliest I have seen is 64 and the latest is 71. I do no know if it indicates geographical area or some other thing.

    8-digit wartime numbers are different.

    20 means Reserve/National Guard this is followed by the Corps Area 1-9 and 0. The rest of the numbers are just sequential.

    First digit 1 means voluntary enlistment. This is followed by the Corps Area Number.

    First digit 3 meant Drafted up til April 43--then everybody came in with a 3 whether enlisted or drafted.

    So 205xxxxx is a Reserve soldier from a state like Ohio, or Indiana
    15xxxxxx is an enlistee from Kentucky
    35xxxxxx or a draftee or post-April 43 inductee from West Virginia

    Those four States--as an example--form Corps Area 5

    Late war ASNs could also begin with a 4 or 5. Mostly because they ran out of 3's.

    They restarted the first digit enlisted 1 after the war...my dad got an 8 digit WW2 style enlisted number when he joined the USAF in 1950.

    Don't ask me about Navy or Marine numbers...I don't think even they know what they mean!
     
  6. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    Andre,

    Let me explain how I found Bernice. First, just search the enlistment file for the name:
    Davis B C. Some people actually have "initial" names, so we try it first.

    You get 327 hits.

    https://aad.archives.gov/aad/displa...ch=327&q=Davis+b+c&cat=all&dt=893&tf=F&rpp=50

    Click on the Search within a Field and put Davis B C in the name field (and erase the Davis B C) on the top “general search” line. Search again and you get five hits

    https://aad.archives.gov/aad/display-partial-records.jsp?dt=893&sc=24994,24995,24996,24998,24997,24993,24981,24983&cat=all&tf=F&bc=sl,fd&q=&as_alq=&as_anq=&as_epq=&as_woq=&nfo_24994=V,8,1900&op_24994=0&txt_24994=&nfo_24995=V,24,1900&op_24995=0&txt_24995=Davis+B+C&nfo_24996=V,2,1900&cl_24996=&nfo_24998=V,3,1900&cl_24998=&nfo_24997=V,4,1900&cl_24997=&nfo_24993=V,2,1900&op_24993=0&txt_24993=&nfo_24981=V,1,1900&cl_24981=&nfo_24983=V,2,1900&op_24983=0&txt_24983=

    None of the names seem to be for a B C Davis and none of the serial numbers have the sequence 123 in them.

    So click on the “search within a field “ again. We now assume the first name “starts” with B and the middle initial is “C”. So now we search when the Name field contains all of the values Davis C:
    (You would like to search for Davis B* C (using the * as a wildcard) but the system does not allow that.)

    The name search for Davis C yield 2174 hits. Change the results per page to 50 and now we will let the computer search for 123 on each page.
    This can be done fairly quickly if you are used to text searching on pages (CTRL "F" and enter 123 to search. Note: to force the search on new page, after the CTRL "F" you may need to hit "Enter". Make sure you see a "0 of 0" for example at the end of the search line if no 123s are on the page or or a 1 of x if one is found. Just hitting CTRL "F" does not force a search, it just brings up the last field used in the previous search. You need to "Enter" it or type the new search field and "Enter".

    I could not tell if the numbers on the bracelet were 705123, 703123 or what, and as Pathfinder said, there seems to be something missing, so I concentrated on the numbers that we think we “know”, 123.

    There is one hit on the first page of 50, for an Davis Alice C so go to page 2. One hit on the second page and we find Davis Bernice C Jr with serial number 07033123.


    A "Lucky" early hit and Job Done!

    In hindsight, I think the missing "3" is actually on the bracelet but partly worn away. If you know what to look for, parts of it do seem to be there.
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2016
  7. alicand

    alicand New Member

    Swank
    thank you again for these explanations on the research at the Nara.
    I was using it in its most simple expression without going to the bottom of the search.
    This will help me my research next.
    Thank you again and the pleasure to find themselves on the forum
    and good job

    andré
     

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