B-24 42-110021 crash location

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  1. PLsearch

    PLsearch New Member

    The Evasion &Escape reports of 4 crew members of that B-24 indicates that they bailed out in the Rahier/La Gleize area (south of Spa Belgium) on 12 april 1944.
    Could you please give me informations concerning the crash location of this bomber.
    Thank you,

    Guy
     
  2. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

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  3. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    MACR 4057, 445th BG/ 700th BS
    T/O. Tibenham,assigned target Zwickau,Germany. Attacked by fighters on return flight and pilot ordered all crew to bale out.
    Aircraft crashed at 14.00hrs at Wideumont,four miles from Juseret,15 miles SW of Bastogne. Lt's Schultz,Owen,T/Sgt's
    Brocco & Vargo were captured near Grand-Balloux and two were taken to the Air Force Hospital St.Gillis in Brussels.
    Lt's Tompkins and Stepko were captured by Field Police at Liege at 06.00hrs on 28th April 1944. 6 POW,4 EVD

    Jaap
     

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  4. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

  5. PLsearch

    PLsearch New Member

    Many thanks to Roland and Jaap

    Guy
     
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    Airwar Well-Known Member

  7. PLsearch

    PLsearch New Member

    Jaap,
    Many thanks once more.
    However, as you can see on the attached map, The 42-100203 did not crash in the same vicinity as the 42-110021.
    Tohogne and Wideumont are at a distance of 50 km.

    Guy
     

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  8. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Thanks Guy,I change your information in my archive. If you want the MACR's ,send me an PM with your mailadress,

    Jaap
     
  9. PLsearch

    PLsearch New Member

    Jaap, I just received the MACR by PM from another source.
    Thank you very much for your collaboration.

    Guy
     
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    Airwar Well-Known Member

  11. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Guy, a few American crewmembers were escaped from Holland and bring to Belgium.
    In one E&E Report I saw the name OTEPPE. They were hiding there for the Germans.
    Probably you know this name and maybe the adress of hiding. A granddaughter of a waistgunner
    want to visit the crashsite in Holland and following the Escaperoute to Oteppe.
    I allready have the Escape-line from Nijkerk to Maastricht,crossing the border to LIEGE,but
    then its stops. I hope you can help us. Thank you.

    Jaap Vermeer MDE
     
  12. PLsearch

    PLsearch New Member

    Jaap, is the concerned bomber the B-24 42-7305?

    Guy
     
  13. PLsearch

    PLsearch New Member

    Sorry Jaap, correct number is 42-73507

    Guy
     
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    PLsearch New Member

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  15. Airwar

    Airwar Well-Known Member

    Perfect Guy,I have some information but missed this,thank you,

    Jaap
     
  16. Mike.Simpson

    Mike.Simpson New Member

    If anyone is looking for information on the 445th Bomb Group, I have crew load lists for all 280 missions flown and all 110 MACRs.
     
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  17. SCHMITZ

    SCHMITZ New Member

    Bonjour
    Information
    Nom : CONSOLIDATED B-24J-125-CO Liberator
    N° de l’avion : #42-110021
    Squadron : 700 BS
    Group : 445 th BG
    MIA : 12/04/1944 (Missing in action : Ici date du crash)
    Lost MACR # : 4057 (Missing Air Crew Reports : Informations sur l’équipage)
    Shote down by Messerschmitt Bf 109

    STEPKO and TOMPKINS, were parachuted to in the village of Wanne (Trois-Ponts)
    The guard guarded the field of the village drove them for a short time to FELICIEN SCHMITZ in the village of Hénumont. Then the two Americans hid in the village of Dairomont, a resistant farm. The Americans were denounced by the son of the burgomaster of Liege for money ...


    April 44, to prepare for the invasion of the allies, the 445th continued the destruction of airfields in France and Holland occupied by the Germans. But a new threat is beginning to make its impact is the V1, called "Buzz Bomb".
    The launch is mainly from long ramps and they are heavily defended by anti-aircraft guns.
    It is the first cruise missile in the history of aeronautics. (13 June 1944 to 29 March 1945)
    On April 12, 1944, on a Wednesday, USAAF carried out its No. 300 mission: 455 heavy bombers and 766 combat aircraft took German industries to Schweinfurt, Zwickau, Oscherlesleben, Schkeuditz, Halle and Leipzig as target.
    But the mission had to be canceled before reaching the objective because of cloudiness and the multiple and thick layers of clouds obscuring the objective.

    Above France, the Luftwaffe fought on the armada, and it shot down several American aircraft. Six bombers will not come back: a B-17 "Flying Fortress" from 452 Bomb Group, and five B-24 "Liberators" from the 445 Bomb Group. Of the planes that were able to return to England, 28 bombers were damaged including 2 unrecoverable.

    There were 56 missing crew members, 12 killed, and 16 wounded.
    Side victories, the gunners of the bombers noted 10 German destroyers destroyed with certainty, 6 probable, and 7 damaged.

    The escort of the fleet of bombers was provided by no less than 766 fighters, not 134 P-38 "Lightning" (all 8 USAAF), 449 P-47 "Thunderbolt" (8 and 9 USAAF) and 193 P-51 "Mustang" (8 and 9 USAAF). They also scored victories on the Luftwaffe: 19 destroyers with certainty, 1 probable, and 3 damaged. Their own losses totaled 3 P-38 Lightning and 2 P-51 Mustang plus the 5 drivers. 23 hunters returned damaged including 2 P-47 Thunderbolt unrecoverable. On that day, the 445 Bomb Group will lose another four B-24 Liberator bombers (out of 26 sent) during the same mission 300: 42-7601 Sin Ship of 702 Squadron (6 prisoners, 4 escaped); 42-109807 "Tennessee Dottie" of the 701 squadron (pilot Lt John Anderson killed, 5 prisoners, 4 escaped) (there is a monument at Oret-Mettet); The 42-110021 of 700 Squadron (6 prisoners, 4 escaped) fell in Widemont according to the report, it is probably Wideumont, 5 Km east of Libramont); And the 41-29118 "Nine Yanks and a Jerk" of the 703 squadron (2 dead, 3 prisoners, 5 escaped) who was shot dead by the German pilot ObLt Waldemar Radener, Commander of 7 / JG 26, and who fell 'Back of the Chaussée de Wavre and the Quartier du Culot to Thorembais-St-Trond (a monument is erected in the rue du Culot).

    SCHMITZ Sabine
    From Belgium








     

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  18. SCHMITZ

    SCHMITZ New Member

    I forgot The aircraft continued to fly unmanned until WIDEUMONT. The Americans jumped in parachutes two by two. During the fight over the village of Wanne there was only one German plane.
    English is not my language but if you come to BELGIUM it is with pleasure that I would make you visit the 03 village. WANNE - HENUMONT - DAIROMONT
     

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  19. SCHMITZ

    SCHMITZ New Member

    INFO POW :
     

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  20. PLsearch

    PLsearch New Member

    Many thanks to Sabine Schmitz for those appreciated informations.
    Guy -
     
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