454th BG 738th BS Looking for info on the following B-24's and Crew Info

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  1. Randy Morgan

    Randy Morgan Member

    I need any help on the following B-24 bombers of the 454th BG/738BS. Out of almost 70 planes and crew, this is what I have left to find. If anyone has any info on any of the please let me know. Not asking anyone to do all of them, just trying to get these last few knocked out, but no rush!!
    Thanks, Randy



    42-78174 No Name B-24 G 05/24/1944

    42-78079 Into the Blue ? B-24 G 5/19/1944
    42-78362 Mechanics Nightmare B-24 G 10/26/1945
    42-78377 Easy Take Off B-24 G 10/1/1945
    44-10571 Miss Lucky B-24 J xx/xx/xxxx
    44-40244 No Name B-24 J 7/22/1944
    44-41107 No Name B-24 J xx/xx/xxxx
    44-49433 No Name B-24 L 1/4/1946
    44-49829 No Name B-24 L 1/17/1946





    xx-xxxxx Reddy Maid B-24 xx/xx/xxxx
    xx-xxxxx Jap-A-Nazi Jinx B-24 xx/xx/xxxx
    xx-xxxxx Our Little Guy B-24 xx/xx/xxxx

    *****List is going Down to 19 Bombers left***** :)
    Any help on any of these is greatly appreciated !!!
    Randy Morgan
     
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  2. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    Randy, just to be clear on this list. Are you saying that ALL of these planes were from the 454th BG, 738th BS and ALL were LOST in action but not one of these has a MACR in fold3? Many of the dates are after the war ended.

    I did check a few of the serial numbers and they don't appear to be in fold3. I find it hard to believe that so many MACRs could be missing from a single Bomb Squadron, especially when the dates are 1944 or later. Why/how do you think that happened, any ideas?

    Is it possible some of these planes were just written off as war-weary or damaged beyond repair?

    Is it possible that some of these planes appear in some sort of squadron list because they had wounded/dead on board but made it back and at some point those planes were confused with actual listed (MACR) losses?
     
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  3. Randy Morgan

    Randy Morgan Member

    Some of them were set back to the states to be scraped. Not sure. These were the ones that were at the end of 454thbombgroupit.com's list. Looking for crew info if there's any.
     
  4. RSwank

    RSwank Well-Known Member

    OK, so you are just after any possible information on crews that flew these planes and probably/possibly none of them would have MACRs.

    Many of these planes appear on these pages with their fates and history cards:

    http://www.454thbombgroup.it/TOTAL LIST DEF1.htm

    Or here:

    http://www.454thbombgroup.it/738THDEF.htm


    Just checking the first few on your list:
    42-52207 Miss Maggie was reclaimed at Altus.
    42-52252 Buzz Job Landing Accident, History card is linked off the list, I'll let the experts read it.
    42-64392 St. Louis Belle Salvaged.

    etc

    On this page: http://www.454thbombgroup.it/738th Squadron Crews.pdf
    search for "42-52207" to find one (of probably many) Miss Maggie Crews. Hugh N West, Jr listed as pilot.

    Here is a photo of West with "Miss Maggie". (The West photo is not on b24bestweb, which has two later photos).
    http://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc752248/

    http://gateway.okhistory.org/ark:/67531/metadc752248/m1/1/


    http://www.b24bestweb.com/missmaggie2.htm
    http://www.b24bestweb.com/missmaggie1.htm
     
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  5. Randy Morgan

    Randy Morgan Member

    I have printed the PDF file with the crews already. The above links are a help!!! Just have to match crews to the planes. Some have serial #, some don't. Thanks!!!!
     
  6. Randy Morgan

    Randy Morgan Member

    Been a while since I've been able to work on my project due to health issues. I am fully medically retired now so I'm slowly back working to get the info to finish my 454th BG 738 BS Info book linking planes and crews. It may not be 100%, but I'm having to go off the info I'm able to find. Maybe the next guy can pick it up where I let off and make corrections as needed. At least what I have thanks to a lot of you is a very lot more than was documented on the internet!!!! I have part of the records which I will share if any one needs it like mission history of the 15th AAF , 8th AAF and others Mrs. Gamma so graciously shared with me via PDF files sent on a secured server which was super nice of her!!!! Jaap, hope your son was able to access the drop box files I shared with you. They are too big to send, but you came copy them!!! Just wanted to say hello and I'm still alive and kicking , just not too high :)!!!!
     
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  7. Randy Morgan

    Randy Morgan Member

    Ok , here's some of the planes I'm searching for info on still. Can't find anything on Fold 3.( 454th BG-738th BS).
    42-52252 Buzz Job B-24H - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    42-64459 Slipstream B-24G - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    42-78362 Mechanic's Nightmare B-24G - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    42-78377 Easy Take Off B-24G- Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-10562 Miss Marion B-24J- Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-10571 Miss Lucky B-24J- Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-40244 No Name B-24J - Gordon K. Tornes was the pilot. Need rest of the crew and brief history of last mission AAIR
    44-41107 No Name B-24J - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-41341 The Purple Shaft B-24L - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-49406 Chicken Ship B-24L - Need brief last history
    44-49433 No Name B-24L - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-49580 No Name B-24L - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-50362 No Name B-24M - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-50582 Reddy Maid B-24M - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-50731 No Name B-24M - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-50837 No Name B-24M - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-50841 No Name B-24M - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    44-50882 No Name B-24M - Need crew and brief history of last mission
    XX-XXXXX Menacing Henry Ford - Need serial#, crew and brief history of last mission
    XX-XXXXX Our Little Guy - Need serial#, crew and brief history of last mission
     

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