Sneezy/Sleepy/The Squaw

Re:Sneezy/Sleepy/The Squaw (Herb Harper)

Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:57:14 GMT

ALL:

Let me try to help some.

At one point it was the policy of the 343rd "Snow White" bomb sq. that when an aircraft was transferred out, the name would remain in the squadron. So it was with at least three of the dwarfs. GRUMPY , 41-11825 went to the 344th Sq. and was renamed Hail Columbia. Sleepy, 41-11761 went to the 344th and was renamed The Squaw. Both these aircraft flew the Tidal Wave mission under these names. The Lebrecht crew were originally scheduled to fly SNEEZY 41-23795, however one engine would not start so they transferred to and flew The Squaw. Sometime after The Squaw 41-11761 rotated to the ZI, Sneezy 41-23795 was renamed The Squaw and also rotated to the ZI.

Haverty was actually a 93rd pilot flying a 98th aircraft "Edna Elizabeth" 41-11620 which abhorted at the African coast and returned.

Hope this helps some.

Herb Harper

Re:Sneezy/Sleepy/The Squaw (Clipped Wing)

Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:34:05 GMT

I'm trying for the 4th time to upload a photo of a "Sneezy"- B-24 that my father in law flew from nov 43 to apr 44. I'm just going to post this and then send you a PM with the photo since I'm having so much trouble.
He was with the 343rd BS 98th BG
Thanks
Dan, also in AZ

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Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:47:50 GMT

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Sneezy/Sleepy/The Squaw (jeanag)

Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:49:18 GMT

Hi all-

Trying to sort out some planes involved in the 1 Aug 1943 Tidal Wave.

In 98th 45 sortie reports are on history. In Col Kane's diagram published by Dugan and Stewart in Ploesti, there are 48 pilots listed.

One discrepancy is a missing sortie report to cover S/N 41-11768 "Kickapoo" piloted by Nespor. Since it turned back at take off and crashed at the field, guess no need for sortie report.

Another is a pilot listed as Haverty in Kane's diagram, showing him in Flight Five with- McGuire, Deeds, Weisler, Taylor, Colchgoff, Mc Graw, and Sulflow. When Michael Hill reproduces this same diagram from Col Kane for "Bloody Sunday" he left this pilot off the list intirely.

The third discrepancy is most confusing. There is no sortie report for pilot Don Johnson, who according to Michael Hill was flying Sneezy- S/N 41-23795, in Flight Three. There is a sortie report for this S/N, but it is for pilot Royden LeBrecht, who according to Hill should have been flying S/N 41-11761 (The Squaw, apparently formerly Sleepy). No sortie report shows up in the history for the S/N 41-11761, on 1 Aug 1943.

According to Wallace Forman's "B-24 Nose Art Name Directory" the 98th BG had two planes named The Squaw, S/N 41-11761 & 41-23795, both in the 344th BS. He also shows two Sneezys one with no serial number listed in an unidentified BS and one in 343 BS S/N 41-23795. The 98 BG also had one Sleepy, S/N 41-11761 listed by Forman as 344 BS.

I show LeBrecht in the 344th and Don Johnson in the 343rd on other sortie reports.

Did both LeBrecht and Johnson fly in the raid? Does anyone have info on which planes- serial numbers they where in?

jean
in Tucson
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