Zimmerman Crew 11/02/1942

Re:Zimmerman Crew 11/02/1942 (RSwank)

Sun, 12 Aug 2012 07:57:35 GMT

JPAC is currently conducting a search for the remains of several crewmen.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/07/ap-jpac-team-searches-world-war-2-wreckage-remains-071512/

Sunday Jul 15, 2012
"Seventy years after his World War II plane capsized and sent him to his death, a storied Fremont pilot’s remains may finally be recovered from the wreckage near a remote Canadian village.
The Joint Prisoners of War/Missing in Action Accounting Command, a federal agency that works to recover members of the military who are missing in action, began an operation Thursday with Parks Canada to search the amphibious plane’s wreckage for the bodies of Fremont native Jack Zimmerman and four others who were aboard the craft, said Marc-Andre Bernier, chief of Parks Canada’s Underwater Archaeological Service."

Re:Zimmerman Crew 11/02/1942 (RSwank)

Mon, 06 Aug 2012 07:40:00 GMT

There is a discussion of this crash on the 12oclockhigh.net forum.
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=30565

A couple of points: The location of the crash is actually in the St Lawrence River as it occurred in Quebec not Ontario. There is a "Long Point" in both Ontario and Quebec, but Mingan is on the St Lawrence. The crash has been discovered.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19057420

Re:Zimmerman Crew 11/02/1942 (Alex Smart)

Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:39:39 GMT

Hello Rolland,
Thanks for the express reply :)
I had wondered about Cousins or Couzine because in the Air Force history Index it is Cousins.
So Holmberg, Click, Peterson and Ashley were the survivors.
I wonder if any or all survived the war ?
Thanks again,
Alex

Re:Zimmerman Crew 11/02/1942 (RSwank)

Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:09:07 GMT

This is written up in Anthony J. Mireles' book.
"FATAL ARMY AIR FORCES AVIATION ACCIDENTS
IN THE UNITED STATES 1941 - 1945"

A full description of the crash appears on the first page of this link:
http://www.warbirdcrash.com/
"11-2-42. LAKE ERIE, ONTARIO, CANADA. At 1650, a Consolidated OA-10 (43-3266) attempting a take-off crashed into Lake Erie at Long Point, Mingan, Ontario, Canada, killing five crewmembers. Two crewmembers were injured and two crewmembers escaped injury."
.......
"Killed in the crash were: Lt.Col. Harry J. Zimmerman, pilot; Sgt. Charles O. Richardson, engineer; Pvt. Erwin G. Austin, asst. engineer; Pvt. Peter P. Couzine, asst. radio operator; Capt. Carney Lee Dowlen, passenger. Passengers Capt. J.B. Holmberg and radio operator Pvt. James E. Click received minor injuries. Co-pilot SSgt. Bernard R. Peterson and gunner Cpl. Robert L. Ashley escaped injury. "

Their eventual fates will take a little more research, but at least we know who to research.

Zimmerman Crew 11/02/1942 (Alex Smart)

Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:32:15 GMT

Hello,
11/02/1942
Harry J. Zimmerman's Crew.
Peterson, Bernard R.
Dowlen, Carney Lee.
Holmberg, J. B.
Richardson, Charles.
Click, James E.
Austin, Erwin G.
Cousins, Peter P.
Ashley, Robert L.
From what I have read, five were lost two were injured and two OK.
I could find little on these men in ABMC
Who were the survivor's and what was their eventual fate ?
Thanks
Alex