P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208

Re:P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (Arhad)

Thu, 14 Jun 2012 03:01:16 GMT

Hi Nige,
thanks for info about Burtonwood - and agree with you, in 1945 there were scrapped many aircraft, not only P-47 Thunderbolt.
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=9155

Question - have somebody info,documents or photo about scrapping P-47, speciality version P-47M-1-RE, in 1945 at Burtonwood ?

Thanks

Re:P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (Webmaster. 56thfightergroup.co.uk)

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:04:28 GMT

Its very likely that the photo was taken at Burtonwood.
Hundreds of P-47's were scrapped there in 1945.
Hope this helps,
Nige.
www.56thfightergroup.co.uk

Re:P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (Arhad)

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:31:33 GMT

Ted51.....hmmmm, good 2 cent " />

Do you /or somebody else have info about this mid-air collision, which looks like hot aspirante for this photographed maschines? Crash-landing or use pilots paraschute? Other photo of this machines or this boneyard will be welcome.

thanks

Re:P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (Ted51)

Sun, 10 Jun 2012 07:52:41 GMT

Good morning gentlemen:
While this is a bit out of my comfort zone, here is my 2 cents worth.

UN-V, 44-21198, was involved in a mid-air collision on 11 June 1945 with UN-E, 44-21137. Solomon Epstein was flying UN-V and Rodney F Jocelyn was flying UN-E while flying over Boxted. UN-V may have been assigned to Vernon A Smith but I can't be 100% sure of this as I have never really studied the 56th FG.

John Vogt finished his tour of duty with the 56th in February 1944 and in October 1944 with the 356th.

Trust that this helps a little bit for all who are interested. Have a great time in France, Peter. Ted51

Re:P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (Arhad)

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 16:17:36 GMT

Hi,

absolutle agree with Peter Randall comments about pilots, I have same data from your web....and agree with comments, that some labels in Squadrons photo are ......" />

This photo is interesting, that there is row of stripped Thunderbolts - Razorback with marking Z in foreground and Bubletops in camo and marking of 63rd FS 56th FG background. Camo looks like used in M version of P-47 so this is year 1945, maybe this photo answer us, what was fate of P-47M´s after inactivaiting of 56th FG.

Better resolution or other photo from same place will be welcome.

thanks

Re:P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (rickpeck2)

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:49:03 GMT

Vogt was in the 356 FG 360 FS in the summer of 1944 after transfering from the 56 FG.
Flew "Jersey Mosquito" PI-V. I'm sure he left 356 FG before they went to P-51's .
Squadron books are famous for there captions being "interesting" to put a nice way.
The 4th FG book from Squadron books was the worst that I have seen but they ar cheep and have some photo's I have never seen.
Rick

Re:P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (Pyker)

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:57:23 GMT

Regardless of where the photo was taken, the caption is a work of fiction; or at least very poor guesswork. To start with, Lanowski flew HV-Zbar Silver Lady and not HV-Z Lucky Lady. As there is no squadron code or serial number visible, the P-47D cannot even be attributed to the 61st FS. Secondly, Vogt was not with the 56th FG when they were flying the M model so the one visible will possibly be 44-21178 or 44-21198, both assigned to Lt. Vernon A Smith at one time or another. Unfortunately I am in France for a few days so cannot check my records but when I get home, I will check on Vogt's service dates.
Peter

Re:P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (Arhad)

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 07:02:32 GMT

Hi,

....question is about this photo - do you know locaion and time? Or have somebody higher resolution?
Thanks

P-47M-1-RE...question about photo from Squadron Signal no 208 (Arhad)

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:32:19 GMT

Hi all,

I´m interesting in fate of all P-47M-1-RE Thunderbolt and on the page 40 in Squadron Signal Aircraft in Action no 208 is photo from boneyard in england 1945 with one P-47M or more M´s? Seeking futher information about the location or photo in higher resolution.

Thanks

Jaroslav "Arhad" Petracek