ArmyAirForces.com
Home Databases AAF Forum Photo Galleries Research Help The Store Contact  
Prev Thread Prev Thread   Next Thread Next Thread
 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite
Change Page: < 123 | Showing page 3 of 3, messages 41 to 48 of 48
Author Message
neworion

  • Total Posts : 29
  • Reward points : 177
  • Joined: 11/01/2007
  • Status: offline
RE: 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite - 03/26/2008 05:03:11 PM
Thank you for checking and I agree the quotes seem like red herrings.  The quotes from both Al Miller and Harvey Lundy are from the book 11th Bomb Group (H) - The Grey Geese, pg.55 & 65.   I haven't seen Grey Geese Calling yet as it is ~$250 per copy and I'm too cheap to buy it.  I spoke with Harvey Lundy by phone a few days ago and he said he did not see MacArthur's aircraft explode and so the entry in his diary, "MacArthur blew up in midair", was not first-hand knowledge.  As Al Miller provided two different accounts (one in the MACR and one in the book 11th Bomb Group (H), 30 years later), it makes sense to put more faith in the report made the day after the event.  Harvey has referred me to Tom Perry, another pilot in that formation, and I'll follow up with him.
tjkman

  • Total Posts : 2
  • Reward points : 99
  • Joined: 05/06/2008
  • Status: offline
RE: 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite - 05/12/2008 02:51:46 PM
Hi- my uncle theodore J Kamen was your uncle's crew's navigator- my brother told me about this site-  This past weekend I located some photos of  satan's kite w/crew as well as some of our uncle's in Hawaii I'm going to try to photo them with my digital camera then I'll email you copies once I figure it out-(that may take a while)
tjkamen
neworion

  • Total Posts : 29
  • Reward points : 177
  • Joined: 11/01/2007
  • Status: offline
RE: 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite - 05/12/2008 03:16:55 PM
Hi TJ,

Thank you for making the effort! I've had really good luck using a digital camera for copying photos when a scanner was not available.  I'm looking forward to seeing your pictures.  If you e-mail me the photos I will be happy to post them here or you can post them here yourself.

There is still a question as to the aircraft serial number for Satan's Kite so it would be a big help to those researchers who are interested if you have any photo or record that shows this info.

Regards,
Patrick
<message edited by neworion on 05/12/2008 03:23:27 PM >
b24bestweb

  • Total Posts : 650
  • Reward points : 720
  • Joined: 07/13/2003
  • Location: Phoenix, AZ USA
  • Status: offline
RE: 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite - 05/13/2008 06:41:50 AM
Daniel L. Stockton "B-24 Best Web"
http://www.b24bestweb.com/

Got PICs? (>7300 on site!)
Submit PICs
tjkman

  • Total Posts : 2
  • Reward points : 99
  • Joined: 05/06/2008
  • Status: offline
RE: 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite - 05/13/2008 05:12:24 PM
Hi Patrick-
Two of the pictures I have  of the planes are dated from Oahu on the back - The firstdated March 1943 was the original Satan's Kite lost at sea by another crew on 3/28/43- The other is Satan's Kite II dated 4/18/43 it has the whole crew  and their names and loc on back. I'll be sure to photo both front and rear of all that I send you- hopefully I'll get them done this w/e-
tj
neworion

  • Total Posts : 29
  • Reward points : 177
  • Joined: 11/01/2007
  • Status: offline
RE: 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite - 05/22/2008 12:59:03 PM
Ted Kamen, nephew of Satan's Kite crew member T. J. Kamen, provided the attached crew photo.  J. Spitzelberger is the only person in this photo who was not on the final mission.  I could find no information on him in the available online databases (NARA WWII enlistment records, American Battle Monuments database, etc.).  Edwin Hovey is not in this photo but was gunner on the final mission.  The photo is dated April 18, 1943 and was taken just before their first mission - to Nauru and Tarawa.

[image]local://14444/1D29243AAF38405E91F5BC8DA59CBA12.jpg[/image]
<message edited by neworion on 05/22/2008 01:08:26 PM >
Attached Image(s)
neworion

  • Total Posts : 29
  • Reward points : 177
  • Joined: 11/01/2007
  • Status: offline
RE: 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite - 06/05/2008 07:24:47 PM
Harvey Lundy has provided some context for the photo above.  His diary provides interesting detail.  "I have a similar crew picture taken shortly  before we took off at 10 PM for Canton on the way to Funafuti for bombing missions to Nauru and Tarawa   The date was April 17th, 1943.  Twenty-two  planes bombed Nauru on the 21st led by General Hale of the Seventh Air Force.  General Landon was head of our Seventh Bomber Command.  Major Lippencott, head of the 372nd Squadron, flew our plane.  Our plane did get shot up some and I got a purple heart along with three others on our plane, the Snuffy Smith.  I was co-pilot my first 4 missions for Osborne and then in October became first pilot and flew 26 missions with my own crew."
neworion

  • Total Posts : 29
  • Reward points : 177
  • Joined: 11/01/2007
  • Status: offline
RE: 11BG(H)/431st - Jack Drenan, Satan's Kite - 09/07/2008 03:24:56 PM
This story was transcribed from an article originally published in the Alhambra Post-Advocate, Alhambra, California, in 1943. The exact date of the article is unknown.  Wednesday, May 12, 1943 is a good guess.  A jpg image of the original article was sent to me by Penny LeGrand, whose father, Charles 'Hoppy' Hopkins, was a pilot in the 7th air force and trained and flew with Don MacArthur.  I e-mailed Harvey Lundy to inquire as to the date of the Air Medal awards ceremony and he replied:

"Newspaper articles are not always accurate.  We actually bombed Nauru on April 21st, 1943.  That night the Japanese bombed us at 3 in the morning, the 22nd, about 60 bombs from 18 planes. I agree with Mac.  We were scared to death.  The fox holes were actually holes in which the natives had planted trees.  I was on top of four in the hole in front of our tent.  A piece of shrapnel landed on my belt buckle and made it hot.

We received decorations at Hickam Field, Honolulu, Oahu on May 7th, 1943. I got the purple heart from General Boyd and we all got air medals. Admiral Nimitz was there and about a dozen generals. - Harvey Lundy"


This mission was actually an effort of the 7th AF, 307th BG, 372nd & 371st BS. 

Alhambra Flyer Writes Vivid Story of Two Pacific Raids

The first detailed account of April raids on Jap-occupied Nauru and Tarawa Islands in the Northern Gilberts, for which Lieut. Donald MacArthur,pilot of a B-24 Liberator, “Satan’s Kite” and 16 other Southland residents received the Air Medal in ceremonies at Honolulu last weekend has been received by the heroic flyer’s family here.

Lieut. MacArthur’s parents, Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Hodgman, live at 837 South Stoneman Avenue.  His wife is the former Shirley Zbinden, 250 West Valley Boulevard.  The flyer is 23 years old.

As carefree as though he were telling about a Sunday School picnic, Lieut. MacArthur begins:

“Well, I’ve had quite an experience.  I’ve had my first real taste of this damned war.  It’s not all fun and the sooner we exterminate the little stinkers the better this world will be to live in.

“Our squadron went down en masse and we operated from a small island (Funafuti). It was one of those South Sea Islands you read about – sandy beaches, palm trees and natives still living by the old customs."

Two Raids
“We raided the Japs twice.  Once we raided one of their bases on the island of Nauru.  When we were dropping our bombs on them it really seemed hard for me to realize that we were dropping real bombs on people.  It was hard to realize the black puffs of smoke that were breaking all around us were real flak and that they make nasty little holes in planes.

“We encountered some Jap aircraft resistance but they seemed very reluctant to come in close, so we didn’t get many good shots at them.  My top turret man was quite sure that he hit one.  One of the Nips got a good burst into one of our planes with his 20-millimeter guns and did some damage to Jake’s rudder.  Jake is the guy that was flying the ship and he did a marvelous job of it, too.

“Another of our boys also got some lead.  A 20-millimeter went through the radio man’s window and hit the top turret man in the foot.  With his toes blown away, the man stayed with his guns and hit a Jap.  Another 20-millimeter shell went into the rear of his ship and caused quite a bit of damage.  It wounded some men and one of them died later.  All of our ships got back O.K. and we did a hell of a lot of damage to Tojo.  More in fact than I realized myself.  We all took pictures of the target while we were bombing it and I saw those pictures the other day.  I don’t think the Nips will forget that raid for a while.”

Return Visit“Our first raid was carried off on the 20th and two nights later, on the 22nd, the Japs paid us a visit.  It was about three in the morning when Jack Drenan woke me up with, “Hey, Mac, it’s an air raid!”

“It was kind of hard to believe but when I got outside the tent everyone was running to fox holes and I could hear the planes over us.  We all ran to the nearest fox holes.   The holes are about five feet across and three feet deep.  The Japs didn’t bomb right away because of cloud coverage, and we all huddled together in the holes wondering if it was true and what the first bombs would sound like.

“We soon found out.

“When the clouds opened up the Nips laid their eggs.  God, what a sound!  I’ll never forget it.  I don’t think any of us will. The bombs sound like sky rockets when they’re falling and then they go – ‘KARUMPH’ when they hit.  Those that were close – 40 feet away – showered sparks and red-hot shrapnel.  Some of the boys, who were still running for holes when the bombs hit, got it badly.  I saw one of them lying beside a road the next morning and he looked just like he had laid down on his side to sleep.  There were several more under a truck that had been hurled about 25 feet.  They were a terrible, unbelievable sight.  I just can’t tell you.  The same bomb got all of them.”

Went Back Again
“I had the pleasure of going back on another raid after that when we bombed them on the island of Tarawa.  We bombed them at night.  We lost our formation about three-fourths of the way so we had to go in alone.  Ted (Kamen) did some marvelous navigation.  Whenwe got there we flew some evasive action over the target and I cut the motors several times just to worry them as they did us.  We made a good run and got rid of all our bombs.  I’m sure we did a lot of damage.  They fired ack-ack at us but we didn’t get hit.  That tracer didn’t look so good coming at us, though.  I was really glad to get out of there.

“Don’t think for a minute that I wasn’t scared.  I’ve never been more terrified in all my life.  There’s not one man who was there who won’t admit the same thing.  It’s not so bad when you’re in the air because then you have a fighting chance – but when you’re on the ground in a hole, just waiting, it’s hell.  You can hear the bombs falling right down the line and coming closer.  It’s really no fun.

“Well, we’re back in the Hawaiian Islands now and all my crew is O.K."
Change Page: < 123 | Showing page 3 of 3, messages 41 to 48 of 48

Jump to:

Current active users
There are 0 members and 1 guests.
Icon Legend and Permission
  • New Messages
  • No New Messages
  • Hot Topic w/ New Messages
  • Hot Topic w/o New Messages
  • Locked w/ New Messages
  • Locked w/o New Messages
  • Read Message
  • Post New Thread
  • Reply to message
  • Post New Poll
  • Submit Vote
  • Post reward post
  • Delete my own posts
  • Delete my own threads
  • Rate post

© 2000-2008 ASPPlayground.NET Forum Version 3.1