Hi Pathfinder,

From what i found there were ten noted in KU files.
Breiteile-J1186/KUJ 1127
Colony Breitrile KUJ 1127
Fallingbostel J1160
Ser: II 2486 - Krunnbeck KUJ1103
Near Breiteche KU1127/J1186
Ser: 2106893 - Kliets/Stendal KUJ1113
Leeseringen/ Neser J1108
Breiteiche Village 123255
Harten/ Fallingbostal 123255
Krumnbeck/Meckl 123255
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Not I think in the same order
43-6584 4 FG
42-106785 339 FG
42-103342 339 FG
42-106668 352 FG
43-7142 355 FG
42-106762 355 FG
42-106648 357 FG
42-106804 359 Fg
42-106890 359 FG
42-106893 359 FG
unknown 361 FG in English Channel .
All for now
Alex

Alex,

I have this one..& 4 more in the area:

43-28470   P-38J-15-LO  5Y*M Kirkpatrick, Howard V., 1st.Lt.(O-750616). /Kia 
384th Fighter Sqd 364th Fighter Gp 8AF 440522 SOXO (Germany, Kiel) MACR #5004   
V-1710-89/A044007 
V-1710-91/A039583 
20mm-117045 
50.cal. 612638, 611624, 611794, 613813,  
SOXO (Germany, Kiel 5mi. NW)
Departed AAF Sta F-375 on a bomber-escort mission to Kiel, Germany. Show-down by Fw-190.


area of Kiel
SOXO (Germany, Kiel 5mi. NW)
SOXO (Germany, Kiel, 15mi. due west of)
SOXO (Germany, Kiel, 15mi. SW) x-2

Terry T.

Hi Nils and Terry,

Cannot recall but for some reason i had first thought that the search was for a P51 (?)

I have found the following but am not sure if it refers to one a/c or more ? [All the references below refer to P-38's]
Perhaps Luc would respond ?
19th May 1944
P38 - North Coast - 123255
P-38 - Wattenmeer - 123255
Then
15.20hrs Ser# 6T5Y2 - near Neuerkoog/ Dreisprung - J1125
and
Mk's T5H(?) - Neuer Koog Dreisprung - KUJ 1125
Also
16.10 hrs Ser# 42-67882 - Map Grid SS9 - KUJ 1124
16.12 hrs Grid SS9 (Neuer Koog) KUJ1125
16.15 hrs North Beach KUJ 1124
16.20 hrs Map Grid SS9 - KUJ1124
16.20 hrs Ser# 42-67882 88 - North of Dreisprung - 123473/123469/123451

8th AAF P38's lost were-
42-67882/364FG
Cr near Husum
MACR 5005
1Lt. Edwin F. Gaines POW

42-104402/364FG
Cr near Dreisprung
MACR 5008
2Lt.Marvin H. Brown POW

42-68013/364Fg
Cr North Sea
MACR 5006
1Lt. John Kerr MIA

43-28360/364FG
cr North Sea
MACR 5015
1Lt. Nicholas W. Cruger KIA

9th AAF losses were -
42-67142/367FG
MACR 5367/6213
2Lt. Robert P. Richardson

42-68021/370Fg
MACR 6493


All the very best.
Alex

Hello Terry,
Re MACR 5004, Kirkpatrick.

Fighter Losses of the Mighty Eighth has
43-28470 lost on 22nd May 44
As does the Mighty Eighth Combat Chronology by Adams and Andrews.

Thanks
Alex

Alex:
re MACR 5004 that the date I have listed 440522 = reversed 22 May 1944

Terry T.

Hello Terry,
Sorry I missed the numberd date, tired eyes I expect.
 
Hello Nils,

As for the 19th May 44 these are P-47's
Nienburg/Wesser - J1109
Mulden -J1107
Near Mueden - 123255
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10.10 hrs - near La Tierres/ Cambrai - J1128
13.15 hrs - near Mueden/ Giffhorn - KU1107
13.15 hrs - near Mueden/ Giffhorn - 123478/ 123477
13.15 hrs - near Mueden/ Giffhorn - 123349
13.45 hrs - Schaeferhof/Nienburg - 123350
13.45 hrs - Schaeferhof - KUJ1109
15.25 hrs Fighter plane - Schmilau/Salen/Ratzeburg - 123534
15.35 hrs Fighter plane - Breitenfelds - Neindorf - 123534
 
8th AAF losses were
Lt. Anthony S. Cavalle RTD cr in North Sea 56FG
1Lt. James K. Johnson POW 42-75505 cr Deurningenn     MACR 4994 356FG
2Lt. Edwin D. Cook      POW 43-25294 cr near Neinburg   MACR 5103 356FG
2Lt. Allen A. Perryman POW 43-25302 cr near Emeurden  MACR 5104 356FG 
9th AAF loss was
2Lt. Bernard J. Elsen   POW 42-76199  MACR 4969 362FG

All for now
Alex

Hi !

On what information is the fact based that the plane was a fighter ?

For crashes of 19/05/1944 Kiel-Soltenau claims to have salvaged two B17's,one which crashed at the Professor-Peters-Platz ,the other one near Bleckendorf.

Best regards

Luc

Hallo Nils,
Small parts of JG1+11 attacked the bombers on their way back (for  the second time on this day!) with some
claims.
What do you think about this claim in the vicinity of Kiel:
15.14 hour, Oblt. Engau, 2./JG11, P-51
north-east of Kiel (no hight), (confirmed).

Concerning the aerial battles on the 19th of May 1944
over Central-Germany you may find infos
in the thread:
19 May 1944 - 367thFG, 370thFG - 9th AF
on 09/06/2007 -->Fighters

Regards,
rauhbautz

Hi all,

just read all your posting here !
I will check it all tomorrow, because here in Germany it´s midnight now :-)

P-38J-15-LO   #43-28470 Kirkpatrick, Howard V. crashed at the village "Stellau / Wrist" near Itzehoe, Germany on May 22, 1944


On interest are here now a downed fighter on May 19, 1944 at, or near Kiel this day.
The diary of the Marineflak reported about a crash of a allied fighter...



The crashed B-17 at the "Professor-Peters-Platz" in Kiel I reported on my website:
http://www.spurensuchesh.de/fzkielprof.htm



The crash site of B-17 42-39783 is on my list, but is not researched.


Tomorrow more !


Regards
Nils

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To the notice of rauhbatz, about the claim of Oblt. Engau 2./JG11, P-51, north-east of Kiel, 
I have no informations. More details are welcome !

The P-51 42-103342 5Q-  (O´Sullivan) crashed at 15.25 south of Kiel. Here I have found a time witness and a crash site on a map received. We will researched may this year the area.

The fighter I´m looking for crashed in the city of Kiel at 13.40


Regards
Nils

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