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2013/01/01 09:24:04 (permalink)
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Temporary cemeteries

 
Still looking for the temporary cemeteries (if applicable before transferred to the final one) of following crew :
All KIA Dec23, 1944 in crash of C-47A-30-DK / 43-48056,
Pilot / 1Lt TYSON Hildren / 0 680 121 / 316TCG - 36TCS,
Copilot / 1Lt RUTLEDGE Lloyd / 0 394 018 / 314TCG - 50TCS,
Navigator / FO SCHUSTER Bernard / T 123 627 / 313TCG - 47TCS,
Radio Operator / TSgt WILLIAMS Philip I. / 34 670 650 / 441TCG - 100TCS,
Crew Chief / SSgt JACKSON James W. / 35 701 139 CG / 442TCG - 303TCS,
Bundle pusher / Cpl PUPEK Chester F. / 32 393 169 / HQ 2nd Air Cargo Resupply Detachment.
 
Have already checked for Henri-Chapelle, Foy, Fosse-la-Ville and Grand-Failly and NIL
Thanks for help !
  

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    olympusman
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2013/01/03 14:38:42 (permalink)
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    Tyson Hildren is burried in Hamm (LUX)... as nothing has been found in Henri-Chapelle, Foy, Fosse-la-Ville and Grand-Failly, the only one where the other crew were temporary burried can only be Hamm (LUX) then...
    Will need to contact the cemetery staff for info.
     
    If you have something else, thanks to cfm !
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2013/01/03 21:45:56 (permalink)
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    Lt Tyson was interred in the US military Cemetery #6020, Hamm Luxembourg, on 17 Jan 1945, Plot: l, Row: 11, Grave: 255
    Lt Rutledge was interred in grave 254 (final burial is in Clyde Cemetery, Clyde, TX)
    I show a CPL Williams, Phillip I. same SN buried in grave 256 (final burial D-9-23 Luxembourg)
     
    Hope this helps.
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2013/01/04 02:57:02 (permalink)
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    George
    Many thanks for your help and useful info !
    Of the 6 crew, already 3 problems solved...
     
    My mistake, I typed Philip iso Phillip... so no surprise he was "unknown" in Hamm !
     
    As all 6 died in the same aircraft, I suppose that all 6 were interred in Ham (LUX) ?
     
    Were Tyson, Rutledge and Williams interred on the same date then ?
     
    If you find a trace somewhere of the 3 others, any info welcome too !
     
    Regards
     
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2013/01/04 09:52:52 (permalink)
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    What may not be apparent in reading the unit associations of the crew members is that they were all part of 3rd Squadron of the IX TCC Pathfinder Group (Prov).   Most all Pathfinder crews were made up from several different groups and squadrons. 
     
    I have only ever found one individual KIA who was actually buried under the title Pathfinder...every other casualty incurred in that organization finds the casualty buried as a member of his original parent unit.
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2013/01/04 10:09:15 (permalink)
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    Ancestry.com have scanned the microfilm copies of the
      U.S. Rosters of World War II Dead, 1939-1945 And these contain a column for the 'previous' burial location, which I have given below, the only airman that is different is Schuster, why might he be in Foy rather than Hamm at the time of death?  You might need his IDPF to clarify all this.  Maybe he died of injuries after the crash.
     
    1Lt TYSON Hildren / 0-680121 / Cemetery #6020 Hamm Cemetery,  Lux
    1Lt RUTLEDGE Lloyd / 0-394018 /  Cemetery #6020 Hamm Cemetery Lux
    FO SCHUSTER Bernard / T-123627 / Cemetery #1225 Foy Cemetery, Bastogne
    TSgt WILLIAMS Philip I. / 34670650 /  Cemetery #6020 Hamm Cemetery Lux
    SSgt JACKSON James W. / 35701139 / Cemetery #6020 Hamm Cemetery Lux
    Cpl PUPEK Chester F. / 32393169 / Cemetery #6020 Hamm Cemetery Lux
     
     
    post edited by dennis_burke - 2013/01/04 10:36:10
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2013/01/04 11:54:30 (permalink)
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    Thierry,
    Since Tyson, Rutledge and Williams are in adjacent graves they more than likely were buried on the same day.
    Here is where things get confusing. My records show that of the 5 bodies picked up from the plane Tyson and Rutledge  were ID by their dog tags. Of the 3 remaining bodies 1 was ID as Williams thru personal ID and clothing marls, 1 was ID as Jackson through clothing marks. The third was buried as Unknown  X-9.
    Since no mention of Schuster and Pupek is made what happened to their bodies? Was Schuster the Unknown as he was buried at Foy? Pupek was buried at Hamm. Where was the missing body found?
     
    A little more info if you are interested.
    Schuster is buried in Wisconsin, TSGT Jackson is buried in Brooks, Ky and Pupek is buried in Sayreville, N J
    George
     
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2013/01/04 12:01:53 (permalink)
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    I went thru the Foy Temporary Cemetery list and found SCHUSTER but without parent unit... reason I probably overlooked it !
    Complementary info : he was interred "Plot I, Row 11, Grave 274" !
    Strange that all went to Hamm but one to Foy ?
     
    Now still looking for :
    SSgt JACKSON James W. / 35701139 / Hamm Cemetery Lux / plot, row, grave ?
    Then USA but where ?
    Cpl PUPEK Chester F. / 32393169 / Hamm Cemetery Lux / plot, row, grave ?
    Then USA but where ?
     
    Thanks for your help !

     
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2013/01/04 12:03:53 (permalink)
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    Thanks George for the complementary info... Your reply came in when I was busy with mine ! ! ! !
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/01/06 07:56:02 (permalink)
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    I finally found flw info about their definitive burial :
    * FO / SCHUSTER Bernard / T 123 627 / Agudas Achim Cemetery.  Milwaukee County, Wisconsin
    * TSgt / JACKSON James W. / 35 701 139 / Wilson Cemetery, Awendaw.  Charleston County, South Carolina
    Is this correct ?
     
    But still looking for more/precise info about : :
    * Cpl PUPEK Chester F. / 32393169 / Sayreville, New Jersey
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/01/06 08:32:13 (permalink)
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    Here is his headstone application.  Buried in Sacred Heart Cemetery, Sayreville, (South Amboy) NJ in 1949.
     
     
    What is sad about this, is that it appears his brother Edmund, USMC, (killed in the Pacific?) is also buried there.  It looks like his father had to do two gravestone applications in 1949. 
    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=116626173&PIpi=88145690

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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/01/06 12:03:01 (permalink)
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    RSwank
    Terrible stories of war... losing two sons must be a horrible experience.
     
    We nearly lost one son but luckily a last minute transplantation saved him.
    It was a painfull period when we saw him dying slowly but certainly, but he's still there and 100% fit now... !
     
     
    I still searching for the following but last definitive burials in the US of the hereunder TCC crew...
    They all died in Dec 1944 during the Bastogne resupply missions.
     
    Already many thanks for you help !
     
     
     
    Pilot /  Cpt / WALES William R / O799106
     
    Co-Pilot / 2Lt / BASS Thomas A./ 0778377
     
    Pilot / 1Lt / ROBERTS Louis M. / 0 803 691
     
    Crew Chief  / TSgt / GAZARIAN George T. / 31 125 533
     
    Pilot / 1Lt / ROBERTS Louis M. / 0 803 691
     
    Crew Chief  / TSgt / GAZARIAN George T. / 31 125 533
     
    Co-Pilot / 2Lt / EPSTEIN, Lester J.. / 0 824 856
     
    Navigator / 1Lt / NELSON Robert W. / 0 698 467
     
    Co-Pilot / 2Lt / BACHMAN Johns S. / 0 887 889
     
    Crew Chief / TSgt / MARSH Lawrence P. / 31 343 629
     
    Co-Pilot / FO / BELINKY Seymour R. / T 61 697
     
    Pilot / 1Lt / FOSTER Ernest O. / 0 684 712
     
     
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/01/06 13:19:15 (permalink)
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    I found 7 of them.  Will attach them to two posts.  Here are Foster, Garzarian, Bachman and Epstein.

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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/01/06 13:20:18 (permalink)
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    Here are Roberts, Nelson and Bass.
     
    Still missing are: Wales, Belinky and Marsh.
     

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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/01/06 13:34:12 (permalink)
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    Oops... What fast
     
    Thanks for your help !
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/01/08 07:11:07 (permalink)
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    I can't read the cemetery for EPSTEIN Lester correctly....
     
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    Pilot /  Cpt / WALES William R / O799106
    Crew Chief / TSgt / MARSH Lawrence P. / 31 343 629
    Co-Pilot / FO / BELINKY Seymour R. / T 61 697
     
    RSwank... no trace for the above 3 ones ?
     

     
     
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/01/08 10:06:47 (permalink)
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    Re:Temporary cemeteries 2014/04/04 13:31:28 (permalink)
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    Thks RSwank !
     
    ... sorry for being a bit late
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