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Tail # or MACR #
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09/29/2007 08:05:58 PM
Looking for the tail number of the MACR # that covers the crash on 12 Sep 1944 of a plane flown by 2Lt Earl A Desjardins. He is listed as being with the 831BS, 485BG and he is reflected on their website as KIA and is buried in a Group Burial at Louisville, Kentucky. The MACR database does not reflect any 485BG losses for that date. Any assistance would be appreciated. The names of the personnel in this grave are as follows and I would assume they are all part of the same crew. Thanks in advance for any information
Boone, Joseph H, SSgt Bryant, James W, 2Lt Desjardins, Earl A, 2Lt Gluckman, Stanley Sgt Hermans, Robert M, 2Lt
Kees, Lewis E Sgt Lancia, Duido J 2Lt Levcik, Stephen E Sgt Marston, Dale W 2Lt Rugg, Frank D Jr 2Lt
Skarl, Anthony R Sgt
Randy Watkins MSgt, USAF (Ret)
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RE: Tail # or MACR #
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09/29/2007 08:53:29 PM
Randy...There are times when the Date of Death is given,but, in certain circumstances, it occurred a year earlier...especially if the remains were not recovered immedialely. I am not saying this is true in this occurence, however, this has happened and it is confusing.
Some MACRs were made after the war was over, and the German and Japanese records were finally released to US authorities.
Just a thought.
Jim :-)
James S. Peters Sr. T/Sgt B-17 Flt Engr, 27 missions 99 BG, 348BS, 5th Wing, 15th AAF Tortorella, (Foggia#2), Italy My Tour was from 12/03/44-06/19/45 M/Sgt USAF (Retired)
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RE: Tail # or MACR #
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09/29/2007 09:40:08 PM
458BG missions
Mission #78 12 Sep 1944 Wasserberg, Germany Jet Aircraft Factory
Pilot & crew
Boone
Joseph H
Sgt
35469236
831st
Gunner
Desjardins, Earl
Desjardins
Earl A
2nd Lt
0-818638
831st
Pilot
Desjardins, Earl
Gluckman
Stanley
Cpl
12083672
831st
Radio Opr
Desjardins, Earl
Hermans
Robert M
2nd Lt
0-717789
831st
Bombardier
Desjardins, Earl
Kess
Lewis E
Cpl
33418541
831st
Gunner
Desjardins, Earl
Levcik
Stephen E
Cpl
33669001
831st
Engineer
Desjardins, Earl
Marston
Dale W
2nd Lt
0-826925
831st
Copilot
Desjardins, Earl
Skarl
Anthony R
Cpl
32604323
831st
Gunner
Desjardins, Earl
Terry T. (every little bit helps)
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RE: Tail # or MACR #
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09/29/2007 10:10:27 PM
Hi Randy, My understanding is that this crew was on a secret mission. They were on temporary assignment to the 885th Bomb Squadron and the plane crashed into a mountain in southern France. I don't have the MACR. The tail number on the plane was 42-78243. I believe the name of the plane was "Dallas Lady". I believe the MACR is 9579. If you obtain the MACR, I'd appreciate it if you could share it with me. I also have the date as 9/12/44, so I believe you have the correct date. Somewhere I have a little bit more on this, but not much. Jerry 485th BG Assoc. Historian EAJWWhiting@aol.com
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RE: Tail # or MACR #
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09/30/2007 05:56:38 AM
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