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Robert G Rose - 39th FS - 03/29/2007 04:17:39 PM
Hi All,

I'm currently searching for the serial of the P-39 Robert G Rose of the 39th Fighter Squadron was flying when his aircraft crashed on take off on June 25, 1942.  He was rescued by three members of the 96th Engineers General Service Regiment who were all awarded the Soldier Medal.

The details on the loss can be found at:
http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/p-39/rose.html

Note that Rose had apparently suffered a landing accident at Port Moresby on June 6, 1942 while flying P-39F 41-7271.  Baugher's site lists this aircraft as crashing July 12, 1943 in Florida.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated...
Daniel Leahy
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RE: Robert G Rose - 39th FS - 05/09/2007 06:34:49 AM
He'd be right.

The highest FY numbered P-39D/F Airframe(Excluding 41-28***/38***'s) that came to Australia March-July 1942 was P-39F 41-7235

I'll confirm the serial soon. It is stated 41-7121 but that ship was wrecked USA 07/03/42 too

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<message edited by gordonb on 05/09/2007 06:42:00 AM >
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RE: Robert G Rose - 39th FS - 05/10/2007 12:02:34 AM
I have that history card microfilm reel..
ACR-24:41-6040/41-8100  
 
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RE: Robert G Rose - 39th FS - 05/13/2007 08:36:29 AM
Hi Chaps
 
Given the period, I'm incline to say start looking also in ACR-11.
 
What does that mean? Me thinks its more likely a P-400 given the period and what they were equipped with per TOE. Cross transition or "topup" of P-39Fs didn't happen until August 42 or there abouts.
I could be wrong, but I think the "271" Number  came off the "tip of the tail",.......aka Box Number. If so,..it could be in the range of BW1??
 
Just thinking out loud for the moment
 
Hmmm
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RE: Robert G Rose - 39th FS - 12/22/2007 11:20:13 AM

ORIGINAL: gordonb

Hi Chaps

Given the period, I'm incline to say start looking also in ACR-11.

What does that mean? Me thinks its more likely a P-400 given the period and what they were equipped with per TOE. Cross transition or "topup" of P-39Fs didn't happen until August 42 or there abouts.
I could be wrong, but I think the "271" Number  came off the "tip of the tail",.......aka Box Number. If so,..it could be in the range of BW1??

Just thinking out loud for the moment

Hmmm
Gordy B 
[/quote
 
In continuation of thinking out loud I offer more food for thought
 
AH-728   (c/n 14-159)
AH738 (c/n 14-169)
BW-114 (c/n 14-306)
BW144 (c/n 14-336)
BX-167  (c/n 14-359)
BX-174 (c/n 14-415)
 
Did the tail numbers correspond to the manufactures constrution number?
 
Rob
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RE: Robert G Rose - 39th FS - 12/22/2007 12:03:32 PM
ACR-11 * 08320/KF232
ACR-12 * KF233 Z7499
 
I sent these to Joe Baugher awhile back he has them on his P-39 website
 
 
Disposition of P-400s AH728 (c/n 14-159) transferred to USSR. Reports that it was lost at sea, but other reports have it
actually having been delivered. There are reports of this plane being diverted to Austraila
and condemed there Sept 3, 1944.
AH735/738
AH737 not delivered to Britain, To USSR. There are reports of this plane being diverted to
Australia Mar 1942, and condemned there Apr 13, 1943.
AP266/268 to USAAF
AP274 to USAAF
AP278 to USAAF
AP280 to USAAF
AP287 to USAAF
AP290 to USAAF
AP291 to USAAF
AP295 to USAAF
AP297 to USAAF
AP300 to USAAF
AP304 to USAAF
AP305 to USAAF
AP319 to USAAF
AP322 to USAAF
AP326/346 to USAAF
AP335 to USAAF. crashed landed Aug 2, 1943 at Lakekamu River, PNG
AP347 to USAAF. force landed Aug 20, 1943 at emergency strip with 36th FS of 8th FG. Retrieved by RAAF Chinook and
now rests at the Jackson's Airport Pilots Club in a fenced enclosure.
AP348/357 to USAAF
AP359/360 to USAAF
AP361 to USAAF. Pilot bailed out near 14-Mile Drome PNG Jun 18, 1942.
AP362/383 to USAAF
BW100/105 to USAAF
BW107/108 to USAAF
BW110/117 to USAAF.
BW114 was c/n 14-306 and came to Australia Apr 1942 for conversion for RAAF. Damaged
Feb 10, 1943, condemned Apr 1, 1944.
BW118 delivered to RAF and returned to USAAF
BW119/130 to USAAF
BW134/148 to USAAF
BW150/168 to USAAF
BW169 to USAAF. pilot bailed north of Port Moresby PNG Jun 18, 1942.
BW170/183 to USAAF
BX135 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX136 to USAAF. condemned Nov 25, 1942
BX137 to USAAF. wrecked at Tontouta AB, New Caledonia Jun 7, 1942
BX138 to USAAF. wrecked at Tontouta AB, New Caledonia Jun 9, 1942
BX139 to USAAF. condemned Oct 27, 1943
BX140 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX141 to USAAF wrecked Jan 28, 1942 at Margualo Station. Pilot bailed out OK.
BX142 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX143 to USAAF. condemned Apr 27, 1943
BX144 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX145 to USAAF. to CL-26 Mar 19, 1942
BX146 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX147 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX148 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX149 to USAAF. condemned Mar 23, 1943
BX150 to USAAF. wrecked Jun 8, 1942 at Tontouta AAB, New Caledonia.
BX151 to USAAF. condemned Nov 25, 1942
BX152 to USAAF. wrecked Jun 8, 1942 at New Caledonia.
BX153 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX154 to USAAF. condemned Nov 25, 1942.
BX155 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX156 to USAAF. condemned Nov 25, 1942
BX157 to USAAF. condemned Nov 25, 1942
BX158 to USAAF. condemned Mar 23, 1942
BX159 to USAAF. condemned Nov 25, 1942
BX160 to USAAF. condemned Nov 1, 1942
BX161 to USAAF. condemned Nov 25, 1942
BX162 to USAAF. condemned Mar 23, 1943
BX163 to USAAF. condemned Dec 28, 1942
BX164 to USAAF. surveyed Jan 24, 1944
BX165 to USAAF. condemned May 27, 1943
BX166 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX167 (c/n 14-359) to USAAF. surveyed Jul 14, 1944
BX168 to USAAF. condemned Oct 27, 1943
BX169 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX170 to USAAF. condemned Aug 30, 1942
BX171 to USAAF. surveyed in USA Jul 15, 1945
BX172 to USAAF. to RFC in Cincinatti Feb 10, 1945
BX173 to USAAF. condemned Sep 3, 1944
BX174 (c/n 14-415) to USAAF. condemned Nov 23, 1942
BX187 ended up with USAAF in UK in 1942
BX192 to USAAF. to RFC at Rome, NY Aug 8, 1945
BX204 to USAAF. off inventory Feb 29, 1944
BX206 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, AZ Mar 20, 1945
BX209 to USAAF. salvaged Aug 17, 1944
BX210 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, AZ Feb 29, 1945
BX216 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, AZ Apr 4, 1945
BX227 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, Mar 16, 1945
BX245 to USAAF. to RFC at Rome, NY May 8, 1945
BX247 to USAAF. off inventory Aug 26, 1944
BX270 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, AZ Feb 29, 1945
BX279 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, AZ Mar 24, 1945
BX290 to USAAF. condemned Jul 8, 1944
BX302 to USAAF. Shipped overseas after Oct 1943. Returned to USA Jul 30, 1944.
To RFC at Rome, NY May 8, 1945. There is a photo of this aircraft in Soviet AF colors.
BX310 to USAAF. to Italy Feb 11, 1946
BX320 to USAAF. crashed May 27, 1944
BX323 to USAAF. surveyed in USA Mar 2, 1944
BX326 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, AZ Mar 20, 195
BX327 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, AZ
BX345 to USAAF. salvaged Jun 12, 1944
BX348 to USAAF. to RFC at Yuma AAF, AZ Mar 16, 1945
BX409 to USAAF. to reclamation at Luke AAF, AZ Mar 13, 1946
BX424 to USAAF. salvaged Nov 9, 1944

 
 
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