My father was tail gunner of the B-24 H "Paper Doll" She was shot Down during Big Week target Gotha. Tail # 42-7579. 3 KIA 6 POW My fathers plane was shot down over Rodenroth Germany on return to Tibenham. He was POW for 19 months and came home a parapledgic. He passed in Jan. 1973 and did not speak much of the War. I do have picture of crash I located in Germany talken under cover of woods by towns people. I am looking for information and picture of plane or nose art. And anyone who might have served with him or their relatives with pictures and information

According to Wally Forman's B-24 Nose Art Name Directory, 42-7579, was in the
445 BG ,702 BS ...there is a note....there is no picture.

Please go to Units d/b at the top left of this page and click on that....input 455 in Group Search...and follow.

Here is the webmaster for the 455th BG.

Michael S. Simpson Webmaster, 445th Bomb Group (H)

http://www.445th-bomb-group.com

Please contact Mike Simpson for information on the 455th BG.

Jim :-)

James S. Peters Sr. T/Sgt
B-17 Flt Engr, 27 missions
99 BG, 348BS, 5th Wing, 15th AAF
Tortorella, (Foggia#2), Italy
My Tour was from 12/03/44-06/19/45
M/Sgt USAF (Retired)

Hi Patrick,
Here is a link and picture of your Paper Doll, from Daniel Stockton's website, he participates on this forum and may have additional information for you.
http://www.b24bestweb.com/paperdoll-v1.htm

Here is MACR information for you (Missing Air Crew Report)
MACR Number, Date, Aircraft Type, AAF S/N, Group, Sqdn, Pilot
2554, 440224, B-24, 42-7579, 445, 702, Looney

Mod/Blk, Mfgr, Tail No., Call Sign, Nose Art
H-01, FO, 42-7579, U-Uncle, Paper Doll

Here is the link to the 445th Bomb Group site you might contact them for further information. http://www.445th-bomb-group.com/
Good Luck! -Keith

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-Keith Hardie
Nephew of John David Hardie, 447th BG waist gunner.
www.447bg.com

The picture enclosed shows an aircraft (42-7691) from the 449BG, 15th AF, not 42-7579 from the 445th

According to Wally Forman....there were 19 Paper Doll named B-24s, and 1 one named Paoer Doll (The), and one named Paper Doll II.

Here is the list :
Bomb Grp Sqdron Acft No Photo
None None None No
5 None 42-72812 Yes
98 415 42-51981 No
98 415 42-99860 No
376 512 41-29279 No
380 529 42-73187 Yes
44 68 42-100110 Yes
34 7 42-94799 No
445 702 42-7579 No
449 719 42-7691 Yes
453 734 42-52237 No
459 756 42-52316 Yes
464 779 41-29351 Yes
465 781 42-52521 Yes
466 786 42-94799 Yes
482 812 42-3492 No
489 846 42-52688 No *
489 846 42-94932 Yes
456 None None No
486 None 42-52688 Yes (The) *
445 702 42-7590 No II

* Same Aircraft

I don't know how any one can be sure of the picture,unless the individuals can be identified.

Jim :-)

James S. Peters Sr. T/Sgt
B-17 Flt Engr, 27 missions
99 BG, 348BS, 5th Wing, 15th AAF
Tortorella, (Foggia#2), Italy
My Tour was from 12/03/44-06/19/45
M/Sgt USAF (Retired)

Pat,

Here's what appears to me to be another image of the same "Paper Doll" nose art provided earlier by Keith.




If I find any more "Paper Doll" images, I'll pass them on to you.

Andy

"It's Never Too Late To Have A Happy Childhood"

Thank you so much for reply I believe the pic of paper doll nose art was talken from a B-17. I have seen this picture.

My bad it is a liberator

Pat,

In the for whatever it's worth category, there was a B-24H with a name similar to your father's a/c (see graphic below) as well as a B-17 in the 457th named "Paper Doll" .




34th BG (H)/7th BS (H) 42-94799 “The Paper Doll”

Andy

"It's Never Too Late To Have A Happy Childhood"

It seems the name Paper Doll was popular with the B-17s as well...I counted 23 B-17s.

Jim :-)

James S. Peters Sr. T/Sgt
B-17 Flt Engr, 27 missions
99 BG, 348BS, 5th Wing, 15th AAF
Tortorella, (Foggia#2), Italy
My Tour was from 12/03/44-06/19/45
M/Sgt USAF (Retired)

Thank you everone for the response. The picture of the B-24 in response is not the Paper Doll my father flew in. The one he flew in was from the 445th BG out of tibinham it went down 24/Feb/1944. I can not seem to track down a picture of it. I will not give up my search

Hi Patrick,

In the for what it's worth department, there is a reference to 42-7579 in Project Bits and Pieces. Says this AC was 'Paper Doll" Woman in evening dress and gives a reference to pp 171 of Roger Freeman's Mighty Eighth War Manual. Sounds like a picture must be there but I no longer have my copy to verify it. Maybe someone else can check it out for you. My reference also shows 21 AC by that name, some B-24s and some B-17s, all in the 8th Air Force plus some other slight variations. Quite a popular name.

Vic

The photo in post #2 is the 449th Paper Doll, s/n 42-7691. Pictured is the Richard Garrison crew, both lost 4/4/44 over Bucharest, MACR 3703. The photo in post #5 is also the 449th ship. She became known 'tongue-in-cheek' as Raper Doll after the 2/20 mission in support of the Anzio Beachhead. Note the flak patch which appears to turn the P into an R. Positively the 449th ship. The 449th Paper Doll is also the subject of a James Dietz painting titled "Maximum Effort" and was commisioned by Lt. Col. Hollie Wilkes of the 449th Association.

Hi
 
No pictures and not much info.  My uncle Charles Sherd was a RW gunner on 42-7579.  Can you post or email the crash picture.   He did not like to talk about the war.
 
Thanks,  John

Hello,
i am a new member of the forum.
Have anyone a photo of the B-24H-15-CF, 41-29351
This Plane crashed near my homevillage in austria at 25. 08. 1944
pleaee contact me rpieber@a1.net
 
kindly regards from austria
 
Richard
 
 

More PAPER DOLL PICs...
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hello,
 
thank you very much for your answer and help.
At the website i found the Paper Doll  B -24H 41-29351 on the pics.
 
But i canot find the B-24H 42-52168  "The Citadel" BG 451, BS 725 MACR 3693
 
Best regards
 
Richard
 
 
 

Sorry, no PIC (yet!) for...
CITADEL, The B - 24 H - 10 - FO 42-52168 15 451 725 ~

    Hi Patrick,
My name is Terry Sherd. My father is the one mentioned by my cousin John (brakesnake). I tried to e-mail you last fall 07, at the address you have listed, but I assume that your e-mail address has changed since your original post in 05. I had high hopes of contacting you and was disappointed when that didn't happen. I have a picture of our fathers together with the rest of their crew next to their plane, but unfortunately it's the side of the plane not the nose. I hope you occasionally check this post so we can make contact. I have other info I would love to share with you.
Regards,
Terry

Terry:
 
Can you send me a copy of the crew photo for the 445th web site?

Mike Simpson
Webmaster & Unit Historian
445th Bomb Group (Heavy)
www.445bg.org
VP, 445th BG, Kassel Mission Historical Society
www.Kasselmission.com