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P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout

Need interior drawings and photos to develop scale interior for both the B and D models. Any Ideas or sources?
 
Building 1:6.85 scale (Top Flight) scale models of my father's a/c for Fighter Aces Museum and any help would be appreciated.
 
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Bill Marshall

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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2005/12/02 16:34:44 (permalink)
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    I have cockpit photos of various fighter planes,P-51D included.I do not have the means to transmit photo via this medium,but would be glad to make a copy on copy machine and mail it to via snail mail if you dont receive a better offer. 
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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2005/12/04 09:06:35 (permalink)
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    Bill------these views may be of use with Yunch's photos; first is B-model second is D. Incidentally Peter Randall has been in touch with one of your group Bob Westerveld (354th) I'm hoping to get his "Scatterbrain" on the site.                      Cheers    Nick

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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2005/12/04 09:07:49 (permalink)
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    P-51D  interior

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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2005/12/04 13:05:28 (permalink)
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    buckeyeuk,
    I havent heard from Bill,I guess he was waiting for a better offer which you just gave him.Now he wont have to send me his address.Your "D" photo resembles mine to some degree although the one I have is high lighted more and also tells what all the bells and whistles are on the instrument panel and left and right side controls in cockpit. 
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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2005/12/06 12:21:31 (permalink)
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    Hi Yunch-----if this isn't what you referred to it would be interesting to see if the descriptions correspond.      Nick

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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2005/12/06 12:42:21 (permalink)
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    Nick,
    Thats the one,I never heard from dragonfly or whatever he calls himself,I guess he is busy using this forum to tout his self authored autographed book.After I made my post to him and saw his profile minus everything,but his name I knew I over extended my generosity.I may be wrong,but I did not see a thank you posted to you from him for your effort.  
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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2005/12/06 12:53:18 (permalink)
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    Bill,
     
    Credit line for the attached photograph is http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51pics/military/earlyyears.shtml
     
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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2006/02/16 11:30:33 (permalink)
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    Sorry for the tardy and inexcusable delay on responding to all of you on this  - I simply wasn't notified and might have done it to myself.  Thanks for all the images.
     
    At the end of the day I'll probably just wing it and estimate dimensions/size for the trottle and trim consoles, etc.
     
    Yunch - do you really feel I have spent a lot of time 'self promoting my book"?? I asked Scott for permission and received it but to my knowledge I only put the one post up - sorry it offended you.
     
    Nick keep up the good work - I'd like to chat with you sometime soon about the tools you use for your great profiles.
     
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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2006/02/23 08:06:28 (permalink)
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    Hope this reads OK; bearing in mind the popularity of the P-51 as a modelling subject ( quite rightly too ! ) this may be of interest.
    Bob Kuhnert was a radio line chief with the 355FG at Steeple Morden , I had the pleasure of meeting him at a couple of re-unions ( Bill I'm sure you will know him ) after I'd talked to various pilots in the 355/339/359th FGs he came up with this.
    The wire antennae were certainly on Mustangs in the MTO and Pacific, you can see them in cockpit close-ups. I don't think the 9th AF P-51s had them either. The early RAF Spitfire Vs had HF wires but discontinued them with VHF.                                      Nick

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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2006/02/23 14:57:47 (permalink)
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    Nick - I couldn't open it.  BTW send me your mailing address!
     
    Yes I know Kuhnert well.  Bob and Gordon Hunsburger were the driving forces behind the 355FGA from the beginning
     
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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2006/02/25 11:30:37 (permalink)
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    Artists may have picked up the habit of showing P-51wire antennas from more than Korean age photos. They may have reviewed many WWII factory photos or photos of fighters on their way to wartime ZI embarkation points.
     
    The advent of VHF for radiotelephone use had its good news and bad news. The good new: these sets were lightweight, gave good range for their power levels, and were convenient to operate.
     
    The bad news was that ships with VHF exclusively, deprived their pilots of the weather reports and general flying information commonly transmitted on stateside LF range stations. The temporary fix was the BC-1206 receiver, commonly referred to as the "DETROLA" as many were made by this now defunct Detroit radio company. WWII P-51’s used the mentioned wire antenna for this purpose (attached). These sets were typically removed upon reaching the combat theaters where they were not required, but I suspect more than a few antennas fell through the cracks. Also, some theaters likely retained the wires for BC-453 LF receivers. -Adrian

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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2006/03/29 23:51:40 (permalink)
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    Bill,

    I don't know if you are still looking for plans. You may be finished with your project by now. If you are, I have these plans of a P-51B from 1960 "Outstanding Military Aircraft of WWII." It shows the sides of the cockpit and the details which may help you with location.

    8.5" x 5.75" scans at 150 dpi are 1.2 meg apiece, so you'll have to give me your e-mail address and let me know how big a file you can accept.


    Sorry for the late offer, but I just found this web site a week ago.

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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2006/03/29 23:52:32 (permalink)
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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2006/03/30 10:07:53 (permalink)
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    Scott - thank you very much.  I will send you an email with my address.
     
    regards,
     
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    RE: P-51 Cockpit Drawings/Layout 2006/04/02 09:28:25 (permalink)
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    Bill,

    I forgot to post the cockpit photos that went with the plans.

    P-51B Cockpit Left Side

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    P-51B Cockpit Right Side

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    P-51B Cockpit Instrument Panel Left Side

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    P-51B Cockpit Instrument Panel Right Side

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