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P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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02/18/2007 09:25:23 PM
I am looking for information regarding P-47 "Passionate Patsy". A photo of the nose art of this a/c appears in Mr Ernest McDowell's book of the P-47 in the Pacific published by Squadron Publications. The photo shows the front port side of the a/c, which appears to be painted Olive with white leading edge to the mainplanes. The cowling flaps are in an alternating light/dark colour-? yellow and black. I understand that the 310th FS carried yellow markings on the cowlings but cannot tell if "Patsy" was painted on a yellow or olive cowling panel. The front section of the canopy is of the type carried by "razorback" P-47s. I think the photo was taken in New Guinea. It is captioned as being flown by Lt Ralph Barnes. I am interested in finding out the serial no. of this a/c, and any markings/ numbers carried on the fuselage. I believe 310 FS a/c carried "H-" something on the fuselage. I am appreciatice of any replies though I am aware the information I'm after may not be available. Robert Hagger South Australia.
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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02/26/2007 03:41:47 PM
Robert, Check other posts under 58th FG and the archives on this site-but don't stop there. Brainstorm for other connections-I've found info in some surprising locations. I don't have it available right now, but i do have an e-mail address of a source that might be helpful-I'll get it to you asap. This will also be contact info for a 58FG reunion coming up in June in Omaha, if I remember right. Keep em' flying! Wolfcub
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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02/26/2007 04:24:43 PM
Robert : Air Force Colors Vol. # 3 By Dana Bell . Has a color plate of 310th Sq. P - 47. Butterscotch yellow Cowl - white tail. Page 68 Excellent Photo of 310th P - 47 H38 . Shows Yellow Cowl w/ alternating colored Cowl Flaps , White Tail. Page 28 310th P - 47s were Numbered H34 - H66 Mike
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RobertHagger
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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02/26/2007 09:01:53 PM
Thanks gentlemen, I'm tracking down a book "No glamour, No glory" about the 58th FG through my local library which I'll peruse for clues/info, and I'll try and find Dana Bell's book.
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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02/27/2007 05:39:52 AM
Robert, Based on the information below and at attachment, I believe your aircraft was serialed 42-29091. As indicated at attachment '091 was flown by Lt. Barns in NMF overall with a Red cowl ring with partial Yellow cowl panel and propleller hub livery. http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/decals/super/ss48733.htm "The other natural metal P-47D is 'Passionate Patsy' from the 310th FS/58th FG in the Pacific. It has the broad black wing and fuselage bands common to the late war as well as a white tail. The unit's pre-war rudder markings are most prominent as is the cheese cake nose art, that appears to have been toned down a bit at some time!" Take what you like and leave the rest.... Andy [image]local://upfiles/10103/FB17B64078F94851A55FA1D975E6CC27.jpg[/image]
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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02/27/2007 01:06:46 PM
Andy these are 2 different planes; the camouflaged one is a razorback D-20 or earlier. There is a coloured background to the artwork--you can see the camo at top and bottom---but must be the 310th's dark yellow as the name has a white edge. If so the cowl flaps are probably black-white. Nick
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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02/27/2007 01:16:29 PM
This is almost certainly the same artwork---it looks identical---but most likely the detachable centre cowling panel was transferred to a later (bubble-top) ( as sometimes in the Eighth and Ninth ). The caption says it's from the 35FG on Okinawa at the EOW awaiting scrapping; the red nose ring and tail number on the model sheet fit the 40th FS / 35th FG markings. Maybe a 35th plane taken over by the 58th ? The panel with the nose art looks lighter but might just be faded though there is no red cowl ring. Note the absence of an outline to the names. Nick
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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02/27/2007 04:10:33 PM
Thanks for the further input. On hyperscale theme pics forum, Norris Graser has posted photo of his build of a 310FS 58FG P-47 "Pied Piper" with red/silver cowl flaps and yellow cowl (Feb 19th post) www.clubhyper.com/forums/themepicsframe.htm Robert
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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03/22/2007 05:52:05 PM
Not sure if you are still looking for a photo of this P-47 . there is one for sell on Ebay.Codes can't be seen but shows most of the plane . Not sure if I can put Ebay stuff on here but do a search on P-47
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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03/27/2007 08:05:02 PM
Thanks-I'll check it out on eBay. I saw a photo last week of the a/c in a book on the P-47 by Roger Freeman-serial not discernible, last no. of fuselage code probably a "2". I thought I'd try and contact author or publisher to see if more detail available. Regards
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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03/28/2007 10:10:41 AM
Robert afraid Roger passed on recently; have you tried a posting on the Thunderbolt site at www.p47pilots.com ? Nick
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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03/29/2007 08:47:10 PM
Thanks for the timely message Nick, I was about to email Mr Freeman via Osprey publishing. I'll check out P47pilots.com. Robert
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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04/19/2007 09:23:05 PM
If anyone is interested-I've narrowed down the serial of the P-47D-15 RA to 42-23??? which fits with the photo in Roger Freeman's book-the batch of a/c this one belonged to were numbered 4223143 to 4223299.The last 3 numerals still elude me. The fuselage no. still unknown. Robert
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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05/04/2007 05:54:38 AM
Robert, I have an original photo of ''Passionate Patsy'' in its razorback form, and with the help of a magnifying glass I can confirm the serial # as 42-23190. The fuselage has what could be a "2" as an end number, although this is partly obscured. Regards Mark . Victoria. Australia.
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RobertHagger
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RE: P-47-D-15 "Passionate Patsy"
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05/05/2007 12:54:49 AM
Thanks Mark-much appreciated. I tried enlarging the photo in Freeman's book on photocopier but it didn't help with the serial no. I agree the fuselage no. probably ends in "2"-the little bit visible suggests it's a bit of a funny shape . I'm guessing the 2 may be like an upside down back to front "5". The "5"s had an unusual shape on this sqns a/c. regards, Robert
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