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P-47D 42-278? - 39th FS, 35th FG - Capt. Leroy Grossheusch

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P-47D 42-278? - 39th FS, 35th FG - Capt. Leroy Grossheusch

Has anyone got the full serial for this aircraft?  I have a colour profile but would like to know if there were stripes on top of the wing surfaces?  
 
What was the ruling on wing markings in the Pacific Theatre of Ops around Feb, 1945.  The colour profile I have shows 3 black stripes beneath the aircraft, similar to ETO 'invasion stripes'. 
 
The fuselage has 2 thick blacks bands on a NMF a/c with a pale blue cowl.
 
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    Hi AJ
    I think you are referring to his unpainted P-47D no. 33 which had 6 Jap flags covering part of the serial ; this had 3 black wing bands top and bottom ( added after the invasion of the Philippines in Oct. ) plus fuselage bands. It also had his 2 squadron c/o diagonal light blue fuselage stripes and swept-back blue nose front. The 33 was repeated on the nose band.
    The first squadron nos. were usually 10--39 as per pre-war system.
    His other silver P-47D ( a D-23--RA 42-27861 ) was no. "10", same commander's bands and nose colour but just a small 10 in front of the fuselage insignia; a photo shows no wing or fuselage bands and the date was probably late 1944. Most likely a new assignment as there were no victory flags marked on. Both aircraft had the red-white-blue rudder stripes also as pre-war style.
    There didn't seem to be an order as to the number of black bands as some fighters had 1, 2 or 3 on wings-fuselage, sometimes a combination. Grossheusch's later P-51D had 3 (also no. 10) and rudder stripes.
    Hope this is some help
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    Hi Nick, and Happy New Year to you.
    The first P-47D '33' is the one I wanted to know about, and you've just given me the exact info I was looking for!  I've found a colour profile but needed to know about those wings. 
     
    Were the wing bands added at a later date for extra recognition purposes?
     
    I don't suppose we'll ever know the complete serial number of '33', will we? 
     
    Thanks for your help - your knowledge always amazes me.
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    AJ
    the wing bands should have been applied with those on the fuselage but as you know without a good photo of the upper surfaces you can't be sure; regulations and application were very different .. There is a photo of a P-47D with 2 bands on top left wing, 3 on top right ( maybe one is a replacement).
    There are 2 good shots of No. 33 with Leroy, go to
     
    www.nostalgicaviation.com/army_air_corps_aces.htm
     
    the first shows the serial obscured by his Jap flags, the last 4 digits are stencilled above the groundcrewman's knee but as usual not QUITE legible !  The other shows the 33 repeated on the blue nose.
    Hope 2011 is kind to you
    All for now
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    Thanks, Nick.   Interesting link.   
     
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