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Organization of planes during mission

I am writing a piece that involves Duxford, the 78th FG, and the 83rd Squadron. While research is a poor substitute for experience, it's all I have to work with. I am trying to learn how planes on a typical mission would be organized. Say the group is divided into Cargo Red and Yellow. How many planes in each group and who is the "element leader"? Also, is the structure different for bomber escorts and Rhubarb missions (fighter sweeps?)? As you can see, I'm not clear on terminology. If anyone can provide an overview of how this works, I would be profoundly grateful.
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Shawn Hamilton
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(My father was FO Ralph Hamilton: http://www.ulongbeach.com/Hamilton.html)
 
 

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    Shawn, the easiest way to explain it is to show you the 83rd line up for that mission:
    White 1 Gray 44-63279 HL-Z
    White 2 Kirk 44-11557 HL-L
    White 3 Klaassen 44-15575 HL-P
    White 4 Hodge 44-15586 HL-I

    Red 1 Beckley 44-63178 HL-B (scratched)
    Red 2 Olson 44-15627 HL-Q
    Red 3 Seeley 44-11669 HL-V
    Red 4 Wade 44-15524 HL-K

    Yellow 1 Gilbert 44-63216 HL-A
    Yellow 2 O'Brien 44-11627 HL-J
    Yellow 3 Hamilton 44-15650 HL-J
    Yellow 4 Hobbie 44-11621 HL-S

    Blue 1 Wise 44-63208 HL-U
    Blue 2 Monteith 44-11625 HL-M
    Blue 3 Eadline 44-15702 HL-X
    Blue 4 Neiland 44-15721 HL-C

    Black 1 Miller 44-11563 HL-N
    Black 2 McDuffie 44-11573 HL-K
    Black 3 Harrington 44-63285 HL-R
    Black 4 Davis 42-106789 HL-T (early return - wing tank dropped off)
     
    Cargo was the squadron callsign so your father would have been Cargo Yellow 3.
    Each coloured section consisted of two elements of two planes. Number 1 was the section leader and number 3 was the second element leader. Numbers 2 and 4 were their respective wingmen.
    Normally, each squadron put up four flights of four making a squadron strength of sixteen and a group strength of forty-eight. On this mission the 83rd put up an additional (Black) flight of four. The 82nd and 84th both put up their regular sixteen for the mission and these would have been Surtax and Shampoo White, Red, Yellow and Blue respectively.
    Hope this helps explain things.

    Peter

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    Peter,
     
    I really appreciate that. Thanks! I was hoping to get a general idea of flight structure, but to have details of Ralph's last flight is really great. I hope you might indulge a couple of follow-up questions:
     
    Once in the air, how did the planes group and what was that formation called? I'd always imagined a V shape with a single plane leading, but that's just imagination. Also, is there a public source of information pertaining to specific flights? I have been examining the 8th AF site for missions on a specific day, but it's hard to isolate Duxford's role--the best I have been able to do is get clues from MACRs, which is as tedious as it is unreliable.
     
    Thanks again,
    Shawn
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    I'm not at home at the moment. PM me your email address and I will send you a couple of scans when I get home.
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    Sent. Thanks.
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