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2009/05/21 21:41:14 (permalink)
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New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie

At a museum meeting last weekend one of the volunteers produced an accident report from 1945 showing that the museum’s B-17, Chuckie, had been involved in a takeoff accident on an icy runway. The revelation in the report is a line citing damage to the aircraft’s radar dome. This would seem to prove what we had suspected for many years. B-17 48543 was indeed a PFF pathfinder ship. Equipment on the plane indicated that it was built to be a pathfinder but this was the first period document indicating that it was.

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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2009/05/21 22:47:19 (permalink)
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How cool. Don't you love finding that one little clue that validates something you suspected all along but couldn't prove!!! Dave

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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2009/05/22 18:07:22 (permalink)
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The fact that the accident happened in the states in mid '45 also leads us to believe that the plane was used in a training role stateside and probably never saw combat. This however still leaves the mystery of the string of  bullet holes in the bomb-bay and radio room.  These are patched with the usual "silver dollar patches" as was the practice at the time.  I'd like to read that accident report.
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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2009/05/22 18:47:49 (permalink)
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That is awesome which goes to assesment that the plane was indeed a PFF .  Now what was the date on the accident report and from which airbase.  Was the report from England?  Was it Sudbury?  Would be nice to 100% confirm we have a flying B-17G that saw action.   

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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2009/05/22 19:32:56 (permalink)
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Mike,

Accident took place on February 12, 1945 at the Cleveland Municipal Airport.  44-8543 was assigned to the Test Branch at Wright-Patterson field.  Crash landed due to bad weather.  Pilot Warren C. Dennison, no rank given.

Believe the only surviving B-17s that saw action are Swoose and Memphis Belle, but not totally sure there weren't others.

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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2009/05/22 20:51:11 (permalink)
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Oops, missed one.  This same aircraft was involved in a second accident while taxiing at Dayton AAF on July 9, 1945.  Pilot John E. Porter, no rank given.  Damage code shown as "BL", meaning that the exact amount of damage is not given in the report.  Both listings are on Aviation Archaeology's web site.

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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2009/05/22 20:57:40 (permalink)
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Shoo Shoo Baby in th AF museum is also a combat vet, as is Swamp Gal.  I think the B-17 in France may also have seen combat.

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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2009/05/23 12:46:02 (permalink)
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Marty....Chuckie is a late Vegas bird, and the pilot's instrument panel is different from the other B-17s that are flying, in that the engine instruments are in the center of the panel with duplicate flight instruments for both the pilot and copilot. If I recall correctly, this is known as the Mod 1.

The other flying B-17s have the engine instruments in front of the copilot and only one set of flight instruments in front of the pilot.

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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2009/05/23 23:06:24 (permalink)
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The mechanics tell me she has dual auto-pilots, I understand that this is another indication that the ship was manufactured to be a pathfinder.

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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2011/07/19 17:25:29 (permalink)
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I'm Warren C. Dennison's daughter.  I've been wondering if there was information about him during his time in the Army Air Force.  I find it interesting that he was involved in an accident in Cleveland, of all places.  He was a 1st Lt. at the time of the accident, if you want to update your records.  He is still living, now in Florida and I'm sure holding on to a lot of memories of those time.
 
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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2011/07/21 10:36:51 (permalink)
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Jeanne -
       Thanks for adding the "personal touch."  Glad he's still living and hope that his memories are all good ones. 
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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2011/07/21 17:43:07 (permalink)
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#44 - 8543 " Chuckie "
10/17/44 - Delivered to All Weather Flying Centre , Clinton
1949 -  Classified ETB - 17 Wright Field
Weather Recon / Electronic Counter Measures
Mid 1950s - Assigned Federal Telecommunications Corp. 
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Re:New informaiton on B-17G Chuckie 2011/07/30 22:30:31 (permalink)
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If you haven't seen a pic of Chuckie since the Military Air Museum has worked on her, check out the attachment.  She now sports chin & ball turrets plus a right waist gun.

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