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My father, George Fischer, was an muntions worker (mo901) in the 318FG 73rdSQ. My question is, did the aircraft armorors usually work on the same aircraft or the same few or did they work on arming all of the planes in the squadron? There is a picture I found in his WWII box of things that is of a razer back P 47 and on the back of the photo it says "P 47D Saipan. I can't quite make out the whole nose art on the right side, it looks like "PhFFfff" or maybe "PhffIII". the serial number and the plane # along with the white SQ ID bands are vary visible. Another thing I noticed is the bottom cover for the wheel on the landing gear strut seams to be missing on both sides. I know that this group had some very long missions but some were also very short. It wasn't much of a trip from Saipan to Tinian. So maybe a little dirty air under the plane wasn't critical. Were the covers removed to service the plane or was there an issue with the runways kicking up debris and lodging in that area. I have many more questions for you guys but I'll post more threads.  This is my first try at posting and with a picture I hope it works.  Hugh 

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    Jim, My father is not on that picture. I do have a few pictures of that same airplane. It is a P 47N and they had those on IE Shima. I do not have any of those scanned to show. Regretfully we lost my father in an industrial acident 31 years ago last Wednesday. I do remember a few stories but I wish I would have been more interested when he was with us. One thing a remember him saying is that they were moved from Saipan to Tinian after the B 29s came but the books I have read about the Seventh AF don't get into that much detail. Do you know if they served on Tinian? One of his memories was watching the B 29s being literally flown off of the cliffs at the end of the runways, losing altitude and just skiming (sp) the water for as long as one could see them.    Hugh

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    Jim, My father is the guy on the right with his foot on the trailer. They are arming a P38. They only had those during the Iwo Jima campain while they were on Saipan. Hugh

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    73rd pilot Lt. John Stevens flew P-47 #24. I believe he named it " PHUTTS ". You might like to look for the film " Marianas Thunderbolt ". It's a 1hr film on the 318th during the Saipan campaign. Some clips can be seen on you tube. Also the book " The Pineapple Air Force " by John Lambert is a very good source for info on the 318th.
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    Jim, they only had the P 38s during the Iwo Jima campain when they were on Saipan. The P47 "D"s didn't have enough range. They had the  P 47 "N"s when they were on IE Shima. Barflies, thanks for the info about "PHUTTS" and the film I will look for it. I do have the books "The Pinneapple Air Force'" and "One Damned Island after Another". I forget the author of the later. Dad also mentioned the P 61s and a B 25 unit that was on Saipan when they were.   Hugh

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    "One Damned Island After Another" by Clive Howard and Joe Whitley

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    Forgot to mention the book " Wings Over the Pacfic " 7th Air Force in Pictures. by Stewart Fern. Lots of pics in this book. Comes up on ebay sometines.
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    Thank you,   

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     Hi. My neighbor was one of the "Bar Flies". Man the stories he would tell. Really miss the guy. I have a photo of him working on his P-47. He was just the mechanic not the pilot. I also put up a good quality image of the "Bar Flies" emblem I recently did.
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    There are some pictures posted on Flickr.com that might interest posters in this thread.  Type "P-47 Saipan" in the search box on Flickr or use this link

     http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=p-47+saipan.

    There is also a good video of the 318th's carrier take off on Google video.   Type "P-47 carrier" in search box or use this link.

    http://video.google.com...l=en&emb=0&aq=f#
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    Enjoyed the 318th Flickr photos Heyst.  The Google video of the 318th's carrier take off is excellent also.  Attached is a photo of Lt. Robert Redfield's P-47N "Sack Happy".  Pictured standing in front of the plane are, left to right, Lt. Joseph DeVona, Lt. Millet, Lt. O'Hara, and Lt. J.T. Spivey.

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    For HM Fischer, if you click on  Flickr link below and go to page 6 of Saipantbolt's photostream, there is a Brief Magazine set of photos on the Barflies.  Your father, George Fischer,  is in a photo on the last page I believe.  Use the Zoom, or all sizes function, above the photo too view photo clearly.

     http://www.flickr.com/photos/37428606@N05/
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    Hugh,
    In answer to the armorer queary. My WAG is that they were not assigned to any particular plane. Unlike crew chiefs etc. responsibilty, it does not take long to arm a plane. Each team probably armed 2/3 planes. The planes are armed before mission briefing. Land preps. for next mission take place while planes are in flight. This WAG is based on long ago info from my cousin a Torpedoman 1/C on the USS Enterprise in the early years of WWII. The army may have operated the same way.
     

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    I would like to thank both of you for the replys. The flickr link is great. Do you know what the date is on the Brief Magazine with the picture of my father? I have 8 editions of Brief including the one with the razerback jugs taxing with the crew criefs on the wings but not that one.  Thank you, Hugh

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    Your father is in the Oct. 3, 1944 issue of Brief.  It is the issue with the cover photo  of airman in a life raft , the same issue shown on the Flickr photostream containing the Barflies article with photo of your father.  Back cover model Toni 7.
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    Thank you very much!   Hugh

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