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PA.Dutchman

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Missing Air Crew Reports why does this come - 06/01/2008 11:50:46 PM
Missing Air Crew Reports, why does this not come up? It was the last Mission of the 42 Squadron the 11 BG H on February 1, 1943.
 
When I do a search with all the information NOTHING comes up. See the photo attachment. I have more, but it would not fit the photo size limits.
 
I really had to Crop it to get into size to allow downloading. But I have all the necessary Information and the search for Mission Crews show nothing.
 
Three of the LAST Four 42 Sq. 11 BGH B-17s went down on Feb. 1, 1943 and nothing is listed even in the listing of missing crews if you go page by page. 

The last one crash landed and that was pretty much the end of the 42 Squadron.


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RE: Missing Air Crew Reports why does this come - 06/02/2008 12:23:17 AM
Joe Baugher serials:
41-2442 (11th BG, 42nd BS) crashed into Mount Keahiakahoe, Oahu, Hawaii during
combat patrol Apr 5, 1942 in night and in rain.

 
41-9151 shot down by Japanese fighters during mission to Shortland
Harbor Feb 1, 1943.

Joe site had nothing listed for 41-9122..
 
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RE: Missing Air Crew Reports why does this come - 06/02/2008 01:09:03 AM
I have the Official report for the B-17  that ran into the mountain. My father was no on board but he was a gunner on that plane.
 
It is listed as 41-2444 that hit the mountain, not  41-2442
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RE: Missing Air Crew Reports why does this come - 06/02/2008 04:25:42 AM
MACRs were not introduced until MAY 1943, and although there were some retrospective MACRs raised, most of the losses up until then were not covered by the MACR system
 
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RE: Missing Air Crew Reports why does this come - 06/02/2008 06:09:56 AM
This was all I could find on the subject
 
SOUTH PACIFIC THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Thirteenth Air Force) P-38s, P-39s and P-40s, along with Navy and Marine aircraft, attack 4 destroyers of the Tokyo Express north of Vangunu ; unlike previous missions, these destroyers are dispatched to evacuate the Japanese troops from Guadalcanal. Hits on 2 of the ships cause fires. At night, 19 more destroyers come in, evacuate troops and, after losing one destroyer to a mine, are well away by dawn. B-17s attack shipping in the Shortland-Bougainville area, claiming 3 direct hits on cargo vessels. Lost is B-17E 41-9151 , B-17E "Eager Beavers" 41-9122 and B-17E "Yokohama Express" 41-2442. A fourth plane, piloted by a Capt. Thomas (72nd BS/5th BG), was badly damaged but managed to crash land at Guadalcanal. Two crew members (radio and bombadier) were wounded.
 
the link below list the crew on the Express
 
http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b-17/41-2442.html
 
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RE: Missing Air Crew Reports why does this come - 06/02/2008 08:30:35 AM
It helps a great deal. In the last month I made contact with Major Halls brother, not realizing until then that I had made contact with James Stephens the Radioman's brother some months ago, a Paul Stephens.
 
Then over this past weekend, I had been trying to contact a Paul Earl Alder on another site, and he finally was able to get back to me. His brother was a Waist Gunner on the same B-17 with the other two men.
 
He is a Paul Alder as well, but their middle names differ. His mother had him about the time his father was lost in the Pacific. She gave him Major Halls first name as his middle name because the two airmen had been such dear friends.
 
My father was an Armorer / Gunner in the same Unit, the 42 Squadron the 11 Bombardment Group. I had photos that included all of them in Units photos or other things. 
 
After the lost of these last B-17s of the 42 Squadron they had pretty much lost all its pilots and planes. The remaining men were returned to Hickam. Many had been at Midway, Guadalcanal, Santos and the other battles of the Solomons Islands continuously since July of 1942.
 
My father was one of them, thankfully he lived.  He told us some of the rats eating shoes and shoe laces, the bad jungle fevers that hit everyone, the lack of good water, hot food and dry bedding. Parts and planes were in short supply the entire time. Most of it going to the European Front.
 
These three crews did not live. None of the three crews was ever recovered. This had been the case over and over again in their Pacific Theater with the 42 Squadron. 
 
My father had never attended a Reunion. The men he served with since 1937 were nearly all gone. He was at Hickam on 12/7/1941 as were all of these crews.  
 
Those who now attend were enlisted or drafted after the original Unit was devastated and lost during 1942 into early 1943. Their last planes and men were lost on Feb. 1, 1943.
 
 
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