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Mishap on 18 Dec 1942, Sousse, Tunisia

On this date, the following individuals were killed in a plane crash at or near Sousse, Tunisia. I have been unable to find a MACR or accident report and I have just received the Individual Deceased Personnel File of 2Lt Vernon H Lindner and about all it states is that "individuals lost in a plane crash near Sousse, Tunisia. Would anybody have any more information pertaining to this loss to include the tail number of the aircraft and any other crewmembers that were on ths aircraft. As always, thanks for any informaton
Hudson, Jack G, SSgt
Lindner, Vernon H, 2Lt
Long, Robert E, SSgt
Middell, Farrell W, Sgt
Pollard, Glidewell L, SSgt

Randy Watkins
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    Re:Mishap on 18 Dec 1942, Sousse, Tunisia (permalink)
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    Hello Randy,

    Interesting .
    I looked in the Honor Memorial section of the ABMC site and found the following, are the service numbers of these men the same as in the IDPF ?

    2Lt. Vernon H. Lindner 19067640 - O-727893 - FOD
    S/Sgt. Jack G. Hudson 14065835 - FOD
    S/Sgt. Farrell W. Middell 39012693 - FOD
    S/Sgt. Glidewell L. Pollard 18114887 - FOD
    and this man but see date of death,
    S/Sgt. Robert E. Long 16033996 - 1st August 1943 - 98th BG/345th BS.
     
    If the 1st August 1943 is a correct date for the above losses then there are at least 19 B24's from the 98th BG, and six from the 345th BS.
     
    They were -
    41-24246 - MACR 225
    42-40102 - MACR 223
    42-40663 - MACR 224
    42-40312 - MACR 227
    42-40991 - MACR 226
    41-11886 - MACR 222 
     
    However there are some 68 Robert E. Long's listed in the NARA Enlistment's. 

    All for now
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    These losses I look for were on 18 Dec 42 not 1 Aug 43. Thanks
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    Hello Randy,

    Are the service numbers the same as I have in above post ?

    Thanks
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    319th BG lost two Marauders on this mission; 41-17766 "I Dood It"; Pilot Lt. Gibbs and 41-17803; Pilot Lt. Leonard (MACR 15620). The MACR says serial 41-17206, but this is wrong, as no Marauder had this serial.
     
    This was the 10th combat mission for 319th BG (their 1st was Nov 28 1942). The target was RR yards at Sousse, Tunisia. 6 Marauders on the mission, 2 a/c lost. Flight Leader was Lt. A.E. Woolridge.
     
    "December 18 1942. The sun broke through today. Six B-26s of this Gp. took off to bomb railroad station and yards at Sousse, Tunisia. They were escorted by four P-38s. One B-26 returned safely due to fuel line trouble. B-26s bombed from 800 to 1200 feet. Bombing was made directly down the railway tracks over the station. Bombs were dropped in a pattern covering about 2000 feet of tracks. Direct hits were made on the tracks and also on a freight train in the yards. Hits or near misses were made on railroad station and roundhouse. Heavy black smoke was seen from all fires for about thirty-five miles. Intense and effective machine gun fire from bombers was made on flak positions near the target. 
     
    One of our B-26s was seen to explode and disintegrate in midair about 1500 feet west of railroad station. The second B-26 shot down by flak was seen to crash into the ocean 1000 feet southwest of quay at Sousse Harbor. This B-26 remained under control with one engine out until shortly before it hit the sea. All of its guns remained in action against the flak barges until the end. It was piloted by Lt. LEONARD. Others killed were Lts. GIBBS, LINDER, Sgt. POLLARD, Cpl. MIDDELL, Sgt. LONG, Sgt. HUDSON, Lt. LEONARD, Lt. MARGWARTH, Lt. WILSON, Sgt. FAUST, Sgt. KARASIN, and Sgt. CORETTO. The accuracy and intensity of the flak is indicated by the fact that four of the bombers which returned were hit from three to ten times each."
     
    Crew 41-17803 438th BS:
    Pilot 1st Lt Charles J. Leonard
    Co-Pilot Dean D. Margwarth
    2nd Lt Barnett C. Wilson
    S/Sgt Frank A. Coretto
    Sgt Virgel D. Faust
    Sgt Bernard Karasin
     
    Attached scan shows 41-17803 on a mission December 4th 1942. 
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    This is exactly what I needed. I appreciate all the help and assistance

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    Hello All,

    Great info Deefeater, thanks it clears up which a/c it was, I think.
    "One of our B-26s was seen to explode and disintegrate in midair about 1500 feet west of railroad station"

    This MUST be the one crewed by Lindner,Hudson,Long,Middell and Pollard.

    Footnote has the wrong serial number - but also notes this and gives the correct one (?)  [ my question mark].
    Instead of 41-17766 it has  41-17266 for MACR 15620.
    But you say 41-17803 is MACR 15620 ? Footnote has nothing for 41-17803. But does come up with 1Lt. Charles J. Leonard under 41-17266, again MACR 15620.
     
    Question: Does the one MACR give the a/c details and names of and the fate of both crews ?

    Further to this now may I add that the ABMC site gives the 438th BS for the crew of 41-17803 , Wilson, Margwarth, Charles J. Leonard, Karasin, Faust and Coretto.

    While it gives 1Lt. Edward H. Gibbs as from the 439th BS.
    Does this mean that Gibbs was the sixth man in the Lindner's crew and that it 41-17266 was a 439th BS a/c.
     
    Looking for confirmation of Long's service number also.

    All for now
    Alex

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