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MACR 6580 -- B-17E SER. # 41 - 2464 - 07/23/2008 12:16:06 PM

I'm posting a query received through 1st Ftr. Assoc. channels--

> looking for my Uncle Tstgt Edgar Elseman. He was part of the crew on a
> B17E called Queenie, serial # 41-2464. we believe the craft went down on
> July 8, 1944. My family always considered him dead and body never
> recovered, but info on the internet states he was "fob".......whatever
> that means. any help or direction would be appreciated.
>
> Michell Elseman Roberts roberts4soccer@cox.net

Can anyone help?

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Re:MACR 6580 -- B-17E SER. # 41 - 2464 - 07/23/2008 12:42:21 PM

Michell,

This B-17 apparently disappeared without a trace with 19 persons on board, 5 crew and 14 passangers. The 'FOB' you mention is probably a mistype of FOD, finding of death, basically a missing person being declared dead because no trace of a body being found. Attached is a document from the MACR as posted on footnote.com

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Re:MACR 6580 -- B-17E SER. # 41 - 2464 - 07/24/2008 02:22:38 AM

From Roger Freemans "The B-17 Flying Fortress Story" the following information is provided:

A/C 41-2464: Del McChord 22/12/41; ass 7BG hawaii; tran 93BS/19BG Java 21/1/42; 64BG/43BG Australia as hack named QUEENIE w/5AFSC; MIA Nadzab/Blak 8/7/44 w/19 aboard, no trace.

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Re:MACR 6580 -- B-17E SER. # 41 - 2464 - 07/24/2008 11:00:33 AM

Michell:

I have no idea if this would be new information for you or a repeat of old; however, take what's new and leave the rest.

It seems as though the family of Dawson Leondus Hutchison has been doing some research regarding the crash. Hutchison was a Warrant Officer, Junior Grade on that flight.

Please let me direct you to the following:
http://www.pacificwrecks.com

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1025

Try Inquiry to JPAC:
http://www.jpac.pacom.mil/

If you've not already touched base with these folks, perhaps you should ?
Just a suggestion........
Please know that you have my best wishes for a successful outcome.
Charlotte

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