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Looking for pics and/or info for "Hell's Angel" 42-29978
I recently made friends with a wonderful old gentleman. His name is Frank Petrillo from Waterbury CT. He was the bombardier on "Hells Angel" till she was lost over Schweinfurt 8/17/43. I was going to walk a few miles around the park in my neighborhood when I spotted Frank's logos. He was well dressed and wearing a AAF Association hat and mini bombardier wings on his chest. I cannot not stop to chat with any WWII vet I see and Frank was no different. An hour later I had heard many stories about the air war over Europe, how B17s came shipped in B24s, and about his stay at the Hitler Hilton(Stalag3). So much for walking. I got to thinking that it might be really cool to build a model of Frank's B17 to present to him. I procured a Hasegawa 1/72nd scale B17F and all the goodies to make it look real. Sadly I haven't found any info on the web about the markings of 42-29978. I have a picture of the port side of the nose, found on this site, but no other info so far. I have composed a letter to the AirForce Museum in Dayton but while I wait for a reply I figured this might be an ideal place to do some research too. Here's the info on the plane in question: B-17F-BO "Hells Angel" Code: GD-F Pilot Reinhardt King 381st Bomb Group 434th Bomb Squadron Base: Ridgewell Lost: "Black Thursday" 8/17/43 If anyone can supply any pics of the plane and/or descriptions of the rudder/tail painting, code letter colors, upper wing marking, etc., etc. I would be indebted to them forever! Thanks for reading, Ed I♥B17s Zutant
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381st BG website is located at: http://www.381stbg.org/cd.php There is a CD of photos that is avaible to purchase. You would need to contact Dr. Kevin Wilson, wilsonkvn@aol.com, for additonal information concerning a photo of the nose art for A/C 42-29978. Good luck.
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I♥B17s B-17F-BO "Hells Angel" Lost: "Black Thursday" 8/17/43 Thanks for reading, Ed I♥B17s Zutant Ed, Sorry, August 17, 1943 was not "Black Thursday". August 17, 1943 was a Tuesday. The Second Schweinfurt mission, which was flown on October 14, 1943, is known to some as "Black Thursday." Good Luck with your research. TonyM.
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Info I found list the pilot on record as Lt Reinhart M King. MACR 382. Shot down over Bad Schawalbach by Oblt Franz Strobl in a BF 109G-6 of JG 11/9. 10 POWS. Also the information listed 42-29978 (Hell's Angel) with the 534th Bomb Squadron not the 434th Squadron. Berk Other info for 381st BG: Activated 3 June 1943 AF Station Ridgewell 13 June 1943 Consist of four Squadrons: 532nd VE 533rd OQ replaced by VP 524th JZ replaced by GD 535th PL replaced by MS
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I♥B17s I recently made friends with a wonderful old gentleman. His name is Frank Petrillo from Waterbury CT. He was the bombardier on "Hells Angel" till she was lost over Schweinfurt 8/17/43. I was going to walk a few miles around the park in my neighborhood when I spotted Frank's logos. He was well dressed and wearing a AAF Association hat and mini bombardier wings on his chest. I cannot not stop to chat with any WWII vet I see and Frank was no different. An hour later I had heard many stories about the air war over Europe, how B17s came shipped in B24s, and about his stay at the Hitler Hilton(Stalag3). So much for walking. I got to thinking that it might be really cool to build a model of Frank's B17 to present to him. I procured a Hasegawa 1/72nd scale B17F and all the goodies to make it look real. Sadly I haven't found any info on the web about the markings of 42-29978. I have a picture of the port side of the nose, found on this site, but no other info so far. I have composed a letter to the AirForce Museum in Dayton but while I wait for a reply I figured this might be an ideal place to do some research too. Here's the info on the plane in question: B-17F-BO "Hells Angel" Code: GD-F Pilot Reinhardt King 381st Bomb Group 434th Bomb Squadron Base: Ridgewell Lost: "Black Thursday" 8/17/43 If anyone can supply any pics of the plane and/or descriptions of the rudder/tail painting, code letter colors, upper wing marking, etc., etc. I would be indebted to them forever! Thanks for reading, Ed I♥B17s Zutant Black Tuesday = October 29, 1929 Black Thursday = October 14, 1943 Black Friday = Steely Dan Song P-40 Pete
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Jim Tennet (Curator and Chairman) Ridgewell Airfield Commemorative Association 381st Bomb Group Memorial Association. Life Time Member http://www.381st.com/
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Ed: Send an email directly to me off-forum and I can send the noseart for this aircraft and examples of the other plane markings for this era aircraft. Regards, Kevin Wilson Secretary-Treasurer/Past President/Group Historian 381st Bomb Group Memorial Association Email: Wilsonkvn@aol.com
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Attached photo dated July 16, 1943 Hal
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Hi Kevin, See you in August. Jim
Jim Tennet (Curator and Chairman) Ridgewell Airfield Commemorative Association 381st Bomb Group Memorial Association. Life Time Member http://www.381st.com/
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Wow what a GREAT forum this is! I appreciate each and every reply and there's lots of really useful info that's been posted so far. You guys are the best and I'm glad I found this friendly place! Hopefully within a month there'll be a very happy bomb aimer in Waterbury. Thanks to all of you once again, Ed
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Good luck with your research. TonyM.
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Check out this site. It might help you out with some of the markings. I didn't see Hell's Angel though. http://www.markstyling.com/1ad_b17s2.htm My dad's plane was The Lucky Strike. I bought a print a few years back. Hope this helps. Cheers, John Connors
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wow! The things that come up on google..Frank Petrillo is my Great Uncle and I know for a fact he would love the model. After i stumbled across the post, I had Frank read it for himself. It really made his day..thank you. If you need to get into contact with him, you can e-mail me and I can relay the message. r.edwards217@gmail.com
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Gentlemen, an interesting subject, and I am glad to hear that Frank Petrillo is still alive and well. My father was an eyewitness of these combats on the ground and saw the crews of several B-17 bailing out. I was able to identify most of the crashplaces of this day in this area (42-5069, 42-5139 of 91.BG, 42-5112 of 351.BG, 42-29830 of 379.BG, 42-29956 and 42-3230 of 384.BG). Only the crash location of 42-29978 is not traceable; this a/c is believed to have crashed in the outskirts of Bad Schwalbach, but unfortunatley there is not a single German document available about this crash. So an account of Frank Petrillio would be very interesting for me - is there any possibility to ask him about his experiences on this day? @ xdod: It is more or less impossible to match the claimants. JG 1, 3 11 and I./JG Süd claimed several a/c in this area, and the location of Strobls claim is exactly where 42-29956 (Hausenfluck) crashed; it sounds to me as he finally "finished off" this badly crippled a/c... Best regards from Germany Heuser
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I am the daughter of the pilot, Reinhardt King, and may be able to help you as I have many old photos. Let me know what I might do. Jeanine King
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Dear Mrs. King, very interesting - did your after ever speak about his experiences on this day? Wit best regards from Germany A. Heuser
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