HOMETOWN, Canoga Park, CA, HONORED BY, Mr. Edwin L. Hall, Cousin, P-51B PILOT, 308TH FIGHTER SQUADRON, 31ST FIGHTER GROUP, 15TH AIR FORCE FROM SAN SEVERO, ITALY. SHOT DOWN ON MAY 24, 1944 ON HIS 8TH MISSION. DOWNED OVER GRAZ, AUSTRIA WITHIN A STONE'S THROW OF WHERE HIS FATHER AND GRANDFATHER WERE BORN.
 
I have 2 possible P-51 for him, 42-106582, MACR 5185 and 42-106595, MACR 6316 anyone know which one is the correct one?
 
Thanks
Rob

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MACR 5185
440524
P-51
42-106582
31FG
 
Grimes

























































































































































































































































MACR 6316
440524
P-51
42-106595
31FG
 
Grimmett























































































































































































































































 
From Aviation Archaeology MACR list
 
 
Terry T.

I think posting here does not like me LOL
 
Terry T.

Thanks Terry for Grimes and Grimmett......more work as it now leaves 2 unaccounted for on that date  Knapp, Edwin F, KIA and Mann Dave MIA
 
Rob

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Rob-
The 31st FG Book has very little:
Lt. Knapp -  Last seen Graz Area
Lt. Mann - On return Flite , over Island of Vis ,
Lt. Mann made a sharp left turn , almost colliding
with Lt. Warner , then went down and disappeared.
Oxygen Failure ?
Mike  

Thanks Mike while you are close to the book (wink wink nudge nudge) does it have a first name for Grimes on that same day?
 
Thanks Rob

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Rob - A Mystery. The narrative for 5/24 doesn't even mention Grimes
and states the 31st lost 2 Pilots ???
Mike

Thanks again Mike....The plot thickens as I now have 4 Pilots listed for that date with the 31st FG, also have first names and service numbers for three of the four, it must have been challanging for the 31stFG to keep the records up ? or my (more likely) limited resources are making my search diffucult.
 
Thanks
Rob

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Rob - The Book doesn't mention Grimmett either?
Mike

Prehaps between what I have listed and the book a more complete history will evolve.
 
http://www.geocities.com/raf_112_sqdn1/usaaf_honor_rolls_19421943_mto.html
 
Rob

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Hi Rob,
 
There are two 31st FG MACRs that I know of for 24 May 1944, details below:
 
Edwin F. Knapp of the 308th FS/31st FG was flying P-51 Serial No. 42-106588. His MACR is 5185.
 
MACR 6316 is for Harrison (no middle name) Mann of the 309th FS/31st FG flying P-51B Serial No. 42-106595.
 
Browning G. Grimmett was not a member of the 31st FG. Rather, he was a pilot with the 401st BG, and was lost on 7 May 1944. See MACR 4587.
 
Cheers,
Andrew A.

It's MACR 5185 and the a/c was a P-51B-10, but the correct s/n is 42-106582.

Thank You Andrew and catch 22, I have updated the webpage with your new details. Catch 22 you are right about the serial number for Knapp. Andrew best of Good Fortune for you new book and glad to have been a part in some small way.
 
Thank You both
Warmest Regards
Rob

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