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Joker Squadron - 12/09/2005 09:04:03 PM
Two pilots from the Joker Squadron were loaned out to the 1st Fighter Group in late December of 43 along with five pilots from the 60th.  Does anyone know who the Joker Squadron pilots might have been.
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Re:Joker Squadron - 09/01/2008 10:47:45 AM
Short answer: Matuch, George Jr., O-659739, 60FS, 33FG, was one of the two new pilots that accompanied the five veterans from the 60 FS to the 1st Fighter Group

Detailed answer:  On the 29th of December five veteran pilots of the 60th FS and two of their new replacement pilots boarded a truck at Telergma, where they were stationed, for the long drive down to Biskra. They were being loaned out to the 1st Fighter Group. The veteran flyers were 2nd Lts Harry E. Dowd, William H. Martyn, George P. Means, Edwin (Ed) J. Moses and Virgil E. Radcliffe. (2nd Lts Harry E. Dowd, O-660120, (KIA , 3 March 1943, 27th FS, 1FG), William H. Martyn, George P. Means, Edwin (Ed) J. Moses and Virgil E. Radcliffe, ( got his wings on May 19th, 1942, he and nine of his 42-E classmates were assigned to the 60thFighter Squadron of the 33rd Fighter Group), Lts. Dowd, O-660120, and Radcliffe had been together since Primary Training. Ed Moses joined them at Randolph Field and they got their wings in the class of 42-E. Matuch, George Jr., O-659739, 60FS, 33FG, was one of the two new pilots that accompanied the five veterans from the 60 FS to the 1st Fighter Group. Three of those pilots from the class of 42-E were 2nd Lts Virgil Radcliffe,[class=pfont1]O-660197,  Ed Moses and Harry Dowd. Other Lts. with this group were William Martin, George Means and Frank Matuch. Moses and Matuch would return to the 60th. Martin, Dowd and Means would be lost in combat. Virgil Radcliffe would finish his tour with the 27thFS, 1stFG,)  Sgt. David S. Gray, grounds crewman for the 71st, remembered their arrival in his diary. January 2nd “Some
new pilots had some hair raising experience taxiing the 38’s today. Some had 30 hrs ferrying 38’s and others have 300 hrs
on P-40-F’s.”

Cannot confirm the 2 new pilots to the Joker Sqdn, it appears they might have been P-38 ferry pilots out of England, going by Sgt David Gray.

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Rob
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Re:Joker Squadron - 09/01/2008 11:12:31 AM
Rob,
  Since I posted that question I have been sent all the names of the Joker Squadron pilots.  I still have not figured out the identity of the second Joker Pilot who went to the 1st.  The 33rd FG reunion is soon, September 12th, and maybe I can get some answers while I am there in DC.  All that info you posted looks familiar.  Your web site is looking very good.

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Re:Joker Squadron - 09/01/2008 11:22:39 AM
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Rob,
 Since I posted that question I have been sent all the names of the Joker Squadron pilots.  I still have not figured out the identity of the second Joker Pilot who went to the 1st.  The 33rd FG reunion is soon, September 12th, and maybe I can get some answers while I am there in DC.  All that info you posted looks familiar.  Your web site is looking very good.

JJM (Gary)


It should look familiar Gary, when I got to the bottom of the article ( a 1st FG, newsletter) the article had been written by none other than yourself.....truly a wealth of information.

Thanks Again for all your help
Rob

PS on 7 Jan 43 1st Fighter Group had a plane spin in when one engine failed, I have not been able to track a name yet, the article said he was a bomber pilot checking out......the date is so close to the other fellows, he maybe our man. perhaps a check of you DOD on the Joker list will reveal him.

Rob
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Re:Joker Squadron - 09/01/2008 11:52:31 AM
Rob,
    I wish that was him but according to Lt. Naismith of the 1st, he had the 60th guys, plus Jokers, standing on the flight line observing that flight when it crashed.  He said it really boosted their attention to detail when it came to proper procedures for enging failure on take off.  There is a very gruesome description of that crash in Robert L. Thompson's book Flying in Coffing Corner.
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Re:Joker Squadron - 09/01/2008 11:54:50 AM
Rob,

    Sorry that is Flying in Coffin Corner.  Typo.

Gary

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