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Info on Bertrand W TARDIF

Hello everybody,
I would like to have more informations about Bertrand W TARDIF, (Manchester N.H. USA. in 1944).
As far as I know, he was shot down in september 1944 probably while flying in a B-24. He was helped by the Belgian Resistance in the Salmchateau area (Ardennes), that's why I would like to have more details concerning his plane number,crew, bomb group, cars gate and crash site.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards from Belgium.
GUY

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    lascotte
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    I just found some additional infos.
    Bertrand Tardif was member of the 453th Bomb Group, 753th Bomb Squadron.
    He was shot down in a B-24 in septembre 1944 and bailed out near allied lines.
    Could you please give me more infos? Crew, date of crash and crash site?
     
    Thanks in advance
     
    Best regards from Belgium   GUY
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    A photo of the 453rd's Tardiff Crew with B-24 Male Call is attached. I have no additional information about the crew.

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    Thank you very much Martin for This photo.
    Could you please locate the Lt Tardiff?
    Best regardsµ
    Guy
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    Guy,
    I do not know any of the crew names or which one is Tardif. It appears that he is one of the three Lts.(?) standing in the middle of the back row.  I did discover that his last name is spelled Tardif and not with two "f's" as shown under the photo.  His serial number is 31109604. His occupation before enlistment indicates that he was a secondary school teacher. Perhaps this will help you with your search.
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    Martin Workman
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    TARDIF BERTRAND W
    Born: 1918 New Hampshire
    enlistment date: 15-06-1942
    enlistment place: MANCHESTER NEW HAMPSHIRE
     
    1/Lt Bertrand W Tardif 453BG/735BS (B-24) FTR Sept 44 - bailed out near Allied lines  
     
    The other crewmembers were:
    Bill B Banias
    Fred B Foltz
    Richard A Matheis
    John A Staudlar
    Julius W Gordon
    Charles J Schaeffer
    Robert D Thompson
    Bill G Hileman
    Leonard E Lincoln
    Albert G Hitz
    Darrell A Boucher
    Ralph W Hamilton
    Reid A Pringle
    Maybe somebody can help you with the MACR:
  • Year: 1944
  • Serial Number: 42-52627
  • Report Number: 6936
  • Hope this information is usefull for you.
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    Hi Martin,
    I just received more information on my private mail.
    The Tardif Crew bailed out safely near allied lines on september 27, 1944. (Approximately south of St Vith - Belgium).
    They all could escape with the help of belgian civilians and went to american lines.
       Pilot- 1Lt Bertrand W Tardif
      Co pilot-  1Lt Ray W Del Cielo
      Bombardier-  Capt James H Harris
      Navigator-  1Lt Clement L O'Brien
      Engineer-  T/Sgt Francis F Koehnke
      Radio- T/Sgt Stanley F Bolsega
      Nose turret- S/Sgt Joseph F Tito
      Waist gunner- S/Sgt Clifford Wallwin
      Waist gunner S/Sgt Arthur C Baker
      Tail Turret- S/Sgt James M Moyles
     
    On the E&E report #2419 we can read that Bertrand W Tardif had the # O-811467. ( not the same # as on your response)
    His peace time occupation was teacher. ( Same info as on your message).
    However, we still don't know the number of the plane nor where it crashed.
    (The "Male Call" of the 453th flew until the end of the war)
     
    Hope this can be interesting.
    Best regards 
    Guy
     
     
     
     
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    Hi Martin,
    I just received more information on my private mail.
    The Tardif Crew bailed out safely near allied lines on september 27, 1944. (Approximately south of St Vith - Belgium).
    They all could escape with the help of belgian civilians and went to american lines.
       Pilot- 1Lt Bertrand W Tardif
      Co pilot-  1Lt Ray W Del Cielo
      Bombardier-  Capt James H Harris
      Navigator-  1Lt Clement L O'Brien
      Engineer-  T/Sgt Francis F Koehnke
      Radio- T/Sgt Stanley F Bolsega
      Nose turret- S/Sgt Joseph F Tito
      Waist gunner- S/Sgt Clifford Wallwin
      Waist gunner S/Sgt Arthur C Baker
      Tail Turret- S/Sgt James M Moyles
     
    On the E&E report #2419 we can read that Bertrand W Tardif had the # O-811467. ( not the same # as on your response)
    His peace time occupation was teacher. ( Same info as on your message).
    However, we still don't know the number of the plane nor where it crashed.
    (The "Male Call" of the 453th flew until the end of the war)
     
    Hope this can be interesting.
    Best regards 
    Guy
     
     
     
     
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    Some confusion in the post from Dennis en Garde above.  Tardif was a witness on that MACR.  He was not in the crew.  That plane went down in July.   Oddly, that plane happens to be the plane mentioned in another thread currently being discussed.
     
    http://forum.armyairforces.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=197585&mpage=1#197602
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    I'm sorry for my mistake
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    Hi Dennis en Gerda,
    Thank you very much for your response.
    However I have not the same infos.
    The B-24 42-52627 (Banias crew) crashed near Ensisheim in France, not somewhere South of St Vith (Belgium).
    Bertrand W Tardif was not a member of this crew, on the MACR #6936, the name of the Lt Tardif is listed as a "person having last knowledge of the plane", not as member of the crew.
    Best regards
     
    Guy
     
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    Guy, I think you have the right crew.  On this page, which lists Tardif  you also have "consecutive" listings of Harris, DelCielo and Wallwin.

    http://www.conscript-heroes.com/Art38-MIS-X-03.html
     
    ..and this link suggests you have the right date.
    http://www.453rd.com/books/Liberator_Men_Of_Old_Buc.pdf
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    Thank you to RSswank,
     
    I had already those informations,
    the problem remains the number of the plane and the confirmation of the crash location.
    Best Regards 
     
    Guy
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