Hot-rock B17

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Luc Vervoort

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Hot-rock B17 05/20/2007 11:04:50 AM (permalink)
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Hi !

A B17 with the name Hot-Rock made a crashlanding in Belgium. Was this a plane from 384 BG ? Who can supply me more details ?

Many thanks and best regards

Luc



 
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    PhilSave

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    RE: Hot-rock B17 05/20/2007 01:21:04 PM (permalink)
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    The Ball Turret Gunner from the B-17 "Hot Rocks".

    Having a look at the web, I found a B17 to the name of "Hot Rocks" Seems to belong to 390th BG

    http://www.parhamairfieldmuseum.co.uk/390history.html

     

    Philippe

    Phil in Ixelles, Belgium
     
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      Luc Vervoort

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      Hot-rock B17 05/20/2007 01:56:58 PM (permalink)
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      Hi Phil,

      Many thanks for your information regarding Hot-Rocks.

      This was a rather popular name. On the list I have I found 5 planes with that name (or with Hot-Rocks as name):
      390 BG :
      42-30308 ditched on 24/08/1943
      42-30411 crashed on 12/11/1943 in Germany
      92 BG :
      42-97494 ditched on 22/02/1944
      94 BG :
      serial = ?
      452 BG :
      serial = ?

      As per information received the plane had a triangel with a " P" on the tail.

      Best regards

      Luc

       
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        RE: Hot-rock B17 05/21/2007 10:29:21 AM (permalink)
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        Luc - Can't find name listed for a 384th BG B - 17.
        Do you have date - any other info ?
        Mike
         
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          RE: Hot-rock B17 05/23/2007 08:32:36 AM (permalink)
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          Hello Luc,
          Re: Hot Rock
          try the 92nd BG for 325th BS 42-97494, MACR 2758 said to have cr in N Sea 10 KIA.
          or
          94th BG  and 452nd BG had a The Hot Rock.

          Re: Hot Rocks this was 42-30308 also ditched but on 24 Aug 43, MACR 393.
          Another Hot Rocks or Hot Rocks II was 42-30411 lost on 11 Dec 43 cr at Norden, Germany. MACR 1727
          Both were from the 568BS 390 BG.

          Details from B17 Nose Art Name Directory.
           
          Then from Heavy Bopmbers of the Mighty Eighth.
          384 BG
          a/c crashed in Belgium
          23216 macr 841
          232007 macr 2740
          297274 macr 3873
          448008 macr 13365
          448011 macr 10197
          There may well have been others but all of these had also E&E reports too.

          Good luck
          Alex
          <message edited by Alex Smart on 05/23/2007 09:19:35 AM >
           
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            RE: Hot-rock B17 03/07/2008 10:22:39 AM (permalink)
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            My grandfather was lost on this plane:
            92nd BG for 325th BS 42-97494, MACR 2758 said to have cr in N Sea 10 KIA.

             
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              RE: Hot-rock B17 03/31/2009 11:33:23 PM (permalink)
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              My father flew on a plane named ''Hot Rock". He flew 31 missions. The first was on May 12, 1944 over Leipzig Gremany. The last was on July 25, 1944 over St. Lo France. His name was Warren B. Scudday
               
              He flew in the 8th Air Force, 1st Bomb Wing, 384 Bomb Group, 544 Bomb Squadron. He was stationed at Station #106 Grafton-Underwood Air Base, Near Kettering, England
               
              The Ball Turret Gunner of his crew was Leonard Niles. Leonard is not the man pictured. The Co-pilot from my Dad's plane was named John Colling. Flight Officer Colling signed on for a second tour of duty and was never heard from again. My Father and Leonard felt that he was probably lost in combat.
               
              Leonard, who also stayed in England for a maintance assignment, told me that "Hot Rock" did not return from a mission. This made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I have no more information about his plane. I do not know where "Hot Rock"  was bombing.
               
              How can I find out more about his plane.
               
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                RE: Hot-rock B17 04/01/2009 10:46:41 AM (permalink)
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                Bruce -
                www.384thbombgroup.com
                In the Aircraft Section  , there is no listing for " Hot Rock".
                Mike
                 
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                  RE: Hot-rock B17 04/03/2009 07:40:58 PM (permalink)
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                  In response to basdpm, I surveyed all the aircraft that the three named crewmen flew in (for the missions entered in the on-line database) and the only one not known to have a name is 42-102959. Is this a possibility for HOT ROCK?

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                    RE: Hot-rock B17 04/04/2009 12:15:42 PM (permalink)
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                    Ok, I am totally new to this. It certianlly may be.
                    Here are the names of the members of my Dad's crew. He maintained a close bond between every one of these men.
                     
                    Lt. Leo Cooper- Bombaadier
                    Flight Officer John Colling- Co-Pilot
                    Lt. William Callicotte- Navigator
                    Lt Robert Kelly- Pilot
                    S/Sgt Leonard E. Niles- Ball Turret Gunner
                    T/Sgt Edward L. Pipen- Radio Operator 
                    S/Sgt Warren B. Scudday- Waist Gunner (My Dad)
                    S/Sgt Angelo Sabella- Waist Gunner
                    S/Sgt Alex Pollick- Tail Gunner
                    T/Sgt Sterling E. Miller- Flight Engineer
                     
                    Please send me any information you have or any questions you have for me.
                     
                    Thanks,
                     
                    Bruce  
                     
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