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Forrest Edward Lynn Pilot Pacific WW II
I think that my father, Forrest Edward Lynn, was in the 13th Air Force, but that is a guess. His SN is 701777. His records went up in the '73 records fire. There is an enlistment record out there that is almost completely inaccurate except for his name, SN, and residence. Databases were merged to generate the record. Archives is not interested in correcting it, only in preserving it. How do I go about reconstructing his service in WW II? I know he had training at Cimarron Field, Oklahoma City, OK. because I have his K-43 graduation book with his cadet picture in it. I know he was a pilot because he told me and I have photos of him with his planes. I know he served from Dec 5, 1943 - Aug 17, 1945 (from records) and that he served in the Pacific because he talked about being in New Guinea, Australia and the Phillipines. I have already received the only record that Archives was able to send, his Certification of Military Service. This certification also has a lot of the same inaccuracies as his enlistment record. If at all possible, can someone point me in a different direction to get more information about my father's service during WW II? He died in July of 1983 and is buried at Leavenworth National Cemetery in Leavenworth, Kansas. He was born on June 21, 1922. Thank you, Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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My wife just told me she heard on the news that Ancestery.com will give out military records for deceased family members untill the 3-day week-end..how true it is I have no idea.. Terry T.
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Sandy - Do you know what A/C he flew in Combat . Any photos of them? Sources of Info: If he dealt with V.A. - they have records County , where he was from , Records are a good source Local Newspaper Archives. Mike
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It is true. Go to http://www.ancestry.com You do not have to log in. I logged out and tested it. Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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Mike, Thank you for responding. He trained in a P-47 Thunderbolt. He also talked about P-51s, but I am not sure if he actually flew them. I don't understand how the squadron/unit/group numbers work and don't have any of that information. Is there any place that might be helpful in identifying this type of information? If you know one number, does that then narrow the search for the rest of the numbers? The only reason I believe him to be in the 13th Air Force is due to a description of the locations that I found on the internet for those assigned to the Southwestern Pacific campaign during WW II. I am also planning on making a request for his Morning Reports and Unit Rosters, which may help to reconstruct his service record. Again, thank you for your response. Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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Sandy.. The white painted tail on the Jug was a common marking for the 5th AF fighters.. Not sure about the 13th.. Maybe someone might jump in on that.. Bill
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Australia and New Guinea were 5th Air Force Territory. The 13th operated further East. The two came together in the Phillipines. It would be my guess he was in the 35th Fighter Gp.,5th Air Force. They were equipted with P-47s in late 1943 and with P-51s in Mar. 1945. That would match the time frame you're referring to. Jack
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The Fifth Air Force makes more sense than the 13th. I kept seeing the FEAF description, but didn't know where to go from there. Wasn't connecting the dots. Now I have a place to start looking. I have read over a number of the questions and replies, it is like reading a history book. Robert Mittelstadt or Bob Mittelstadt contacted me years ago and has since died. He was in the same division/group/squadron with my dad and he shared some great memories with me about my dad. He made the effort to locate me and for that I will be forever greatful. Just wanted to get Bob's name in here, in case someone ever does a search for it. Thanks for the information on the white tail and fighter group. I have also requested a copy of a plane accident that he had at field in Florida while in training. That might shed more light on his service too. Thanks to all of you for your help. If anyone needs any searches done on Ancestry, let me know. I will be happy to do that. Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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Sandy: FEAF - Far Eastern Air Force. I believe he was in 35th FG. They had the same Markings on Nose , Number on Nose and White Tails as your photo. Converted to P - 51s 3/45 Stationed Phillipines 1/45 - VJ Day. Japan - 9/45 Mike
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Mike, Sorry, I was confused, I meant to say that he was in the Southwest Pacific Area. Another post from Jack put him in the 5th Air Force because he was in New Guinea, Australia and the Phillipines. That makes sense, but I will research the 35th fighter group to see if there is a connection. I found a great site that has a chronolgy that might also help narrow down his service record. http://www.usaaf.net/chron/44/apr44.htm Thanks, Mike. Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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This may or may not help, but this picture was taken in San Antonio in 1943. He accepted a commission on Dec 5th, 1943. Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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I noticed that the date in the accident report for my father was March 6th, 1944 at Dale Mabry Field, Florida. Were pilots ever sent to training again while they were on active duty? Now I am questioning whether the dates are correct on his Certification of Military Service sent from Archives. Very little else was correct. The record states that he had prior enlisted service from Aug 14, 1942 to Dec 4th, 1943. Then it says he had an hornorable discharge to accept a commission. His active duty was then from Dec 5th 1943 to Aug 17th, 1945. This would put the date of his plane accident (Mar 6th, 1944 in Florida) in the middle of his active dute (Dec 5th 1943 to Aug 17th, 1945). Here is another photo of dad with a different airplane. There are palm trees in the background. Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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Sandy, The 39th FS Association roster lists Forest E. Lynn (deceased 1983) and Robert A. Mittelstadt (deceased 1996) as former veterans of the 39th Fighter Squadron, 35th Fighter Group, 5th AAF. In addition, the aircraft in the first photo posted is painted in the 39th markings and carries one of the 39th aircraft squadron numbers - - number 17. The second photo appears to be in color. The 39th's squadron color was blue. I think it is a fairly safe bet your father was in the 39th. April 13, 1944 was the first date I found mention of Lt. Lynn (and Lt. Mittelstadt) in the squadron records. Fifth mission of the day, patrol mission, take-off time 1345 hrs. and landing at 1615 hrs., Gusap, New Guinea. My dad was with the 39th (March 1943 to April 1944) and flew one mission with Lt. Lynn on April 16, 1944 - - Black Sunday. They took off at 1222 to escort B-24's returning from a "strike on Hollandia". "They didn't get very far for the weather was closed in and then they returned." Landing time was 1330 hrs. To answer your question regarding additional training while on active duty - - - yes, pilots continually received additional training. It appears from other WWII AAF service histories that newly commissioned pilots spent several months stateside gaining flight experience before being assigned overseas. Those destined for the 39th (and other units in New Guinea) were sent first to Australia where they flew local patrols until receiving orders assigning them to a combat unit in New Guinea. The historian for the 39th FS Association is Roy Seher, veteran of the 39th. Please email me if you would like his contact information. Mary Morgan Martin Daughter of CPT George E. Morgan, 39th and 40th FS, 35th FG, 5th AAF; KIA over Luzon, Philippines, 31 May 1945 Member - 39th FS Association Member of AWON
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Mary, Thank you so much for all of the wonderful information. I can't magine what it must have been like to have lost your father in the war. Your email brought tears that were good. The war really took a toll on my Father. He rarely spoke of the war, except if there was something funny to talk about (spilling a box of popcorn over the balcony railing at a movie theater in Sydney, Australia). I have a group picture that was in my Dad's belongings with about 20 or so very young faces in it. It looks like it was a press picture, so the quality is very good. On the back is written "Hollandia". I have been trying to figure out where to best post it. I sent it to the man that monitors http://www.PacificWrecks.com, but this site is more for WW II wrecked aircraft that is still being discovered in the jungles. It is pretty amazing that they are still identifying remains of WW II service men who died so far away and they are finally going home to their families . When I get home tonight, I will post it in the scrapbook section. I would really appreciate the 39th FS Association historian's, Roy Seher's, contact information. You can either post it here or send it to me at sandyjcty@cebridge.net. I cannot thank you enough, Mary, for your email. I am sure you have a very good idea of how much it meant. Sandy (Lynn) Martin Daughter Of 1st Lt. Forrest Edward Lynn, 39th FS, 35th FG, 5th AAF Buried at Leavenworth National Cemetery, Section 45, Row 31, Grave 66, Leavenworth, Kansas
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Mary, My email is sandyjcty@cebridge.net. Just noticed the typo. Corrected the previous email - just figured out how. Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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Sandy, Try going to the NPRC site and fill out the form. In the Comments Box, ask for a "Compiled Record of Service". It worked for me. Good luck! Jim Cobb
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FEAF - Far Eastern Air Force Actually, Far East Air Forces. This was a headquarters that eventually included both Fifth and Thirteenth Air Force. If he trained at Cimarron Field, his primary flying training unit would have been the 310th AAF Flying Training Detachment.
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Jim and Bernie, Thank you for your repsonses. I will send off another request to NPRC with your suggestion. I requested an aircraft accident report from Milwaukee and it should be arriving any day now. Mary Martin has emailed invaluable information from the 39th Squadron diary that she had. There are about 20 pages of documented missions for my father and others that he served with. He was in the 39th FS, 35th FG, 5th AAF. Thanks for sending the information on his training detachment. I did not know that he was in the 310th AAF Flying Training Detachment. Where do you get all of this information? Am I missing some websites or references that would be helpful? Regards, Sandy (Lynn) Martin
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