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Confirmation on the following please.

Hello,
Please can the following be confirmed ?
i.e, that the aircraft involved were not P-38's as some websites suggest.
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440118....P-38....California....Livingston, William D. Jr.
Should read as-
440118....F-4U Corsair....BuNo.  18043....California....Livingston, William D. Jr. USN.
2/.
440122....P-38....California....Kovack, Joseph M.
Should read as-
440122....FG-1 Corsair....Bu No. 13217....California....Kovack, Joseph M. USN.
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440416....P-39....43-2442....Canada.
Serial number is for a P-38G-15 but what was this P-39's true serial number please ?
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440416....P-39....43-2543....Canada....Rhoada, Frank H.
Serial number is for a P-38G-15 but again what was this P-39's true serial number please ?
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441102....P-38....Germany....Giarrizzo, Lawrence P.
Should read as-
441102....P-51D-5....44-13735....Germany....MACR 15796....Giarrizzo, Lawrence P.
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Alex Smart

Hello,
Please can the following be confirmed ?
i.e, that the aircraft involved were not P-38's as some websites suggest.
1/.
440118....P-38....California....Livingston, William D. Jr.
Should read as-
440118....F-4U Corsair....BuNo.  18043....California....Livingston, William D. Jr. USN.
2/.
440122....P-38....California....Kovack, Joseph M.
Should read as-
440122....FG-1 Corsair....Bu No. 13217....California....Kovack, Joseph M. USN.


Many thanks
Alex

  
 
Kovack and Livingston both collided with P-38 airplanes while in unauthorized dogfights.  Both incidents can be found in my book. 
Lt. Kovack and Lt. Livingston were both USMC according to my records. 
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What happened to the thread concerning P-38J # 42-67691? 
 
It was on here yesterday now it's gone. 

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Alex,
 
The other thread disappeared with the website going down. 
 
The other P-38J was 42-67691 and it was involved in an accident on 5-28-44. 

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Hello Anthony,
Many thanks.
Will amend my list to show both airmen as "USMC".
They were both in Corsairs thought yes ?
What was the serials of the P-38's that they collided with please, I find three for the first and only one possible for the second ?
 
I had not seen that the other thread had "Gone", so will recap.
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440528...42-6791....P-38,
This loss is I beleive to be 42-67691 as 42-6791 was a Dauntless ?
OR were there two that day with similar numbers ?
Thanks
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Hello Alex,
 
Yes, the correct serial for 28 May 44 accident is 42-67691. 
 
Yes, both are Corsairs, but  I don't know if Goodyear or Chance-Vought.  The AAF report did not include the BuNo. for the Corsairs. 
 
Here are the numbers:
 
P-38G 42-13391   22 Jan 44
P-38H 42-66943  18 Jan 44
 
All three accidents are in my book. 
 
Good Luck
 
TonyM

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Hello Anthony,
Many thanks for the details.
That would have been Chamberlin and Owen.
Both P-38 pilots survived the collisions ? 
Again my thanks
Alex
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2Lt. Claude L. Chamberlain 42-66943
 
2Lt. Allan D. Owen 42-13391
 
Both parachuted to safety. 
 
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Thank You Anthony,
Great service.
Have sent you a PM.
Alex
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