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B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 08/16/2005 02:06:00 AM




42-32007 was a B17G 35 BO.
Can anyone tell me its colour? Natural metal or Olive drab?
Many thanks for your help
Philippe


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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 08/16/2005 07:00:51 AM
42-32007   was olive drab,,    is was delivered the same day as my brothers aircraft     42-32008    Lil Audrey and it was olive drab  
 
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 08/16/2005 08:05:02 AM




Thanks a lot.
The very first bloks to be delivered NMF from factory are G35BO,G20VE,G35Dl.
I can imagine (and only imagine) that , depending on the group they were attached to,some planes could have been re painted Olive Drab.
Your brother flew with 385th BG 551st BS. Different BG, different BS, may be different painting!!!
Anyway, thanks again
 
Philippe


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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 08/16/2005 09:08:54 AM
I think the general consensus is that the last Boeing-built B-17 to be factory camouflaged was B-17G-35-BO serial number 42-32044.  This was about two-thirds through Boeings G-35 production run.  The Detail & Scale book on the B-17 has a photo with both the last B-17G-30-DL (serial no. 42-38213) and the first B-17G-35-DL (serial number 42-106984).  The 30-DL is camouflaged and the 35-DL is natural metal.  I don’t have the serial numbers for when Vega stopped camouflaging the planes they built.
 
Based on the serial number of the plane you are researching, I would also assume it to have been camouflaged.  But unless you find an actual photo of the plane or someone who has firsthand knowledge of the plane, you can’t 100-percent rule out it having been left natural metal. 
 
My uncle was shot down in B-17 no. 42-32013.  In researching this plane, I have spoken with the four remaining crewmembers that I could locate, and they all independently described the plane as being natural metal.  There are no known photos of the plane but I am willing to take the word of the four crewmembers that say it was not camouflaged.
 
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 08/17/2005 04:53:12 AM




Here is an info I was given
 
Philippe
 
It appears that 42-32007 was the First Group NMF
for the 384thBG. New Rpt 1 Mar. 44 This a/c FTR MIA three days later 4 Mar. 44.
Info from 'Fortresses Of The Big Triangle First' by Cliff Bishop.



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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 01/07/2008 10:14:40 AM
Hello,
 
Someone knows the name of the B17?
the crew was 1 Lt COSENTINO
                        F/O SPECK
                        LT LIDDELL (co pilot)
                      2 LT MALCOM (navigator) captured just after crash
                      S/sgt ROMANO (radio)
                      Sgt OREAN (gunner)
                      S/SGT FAUST (gunner)
                      S/SGT STANLEY (gunner)
                      S/SGT MARIANI (gunner)
                      S/SGT BUTMAN (fly engineer) death in a farmer after few hours
This plane felt about 2 miles in north to Ransart,approximatively 3 miles to A87 airport(gosselies) Belgium
 
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 01/07/2008 10:50:54 AM
Panel -
No Name Listed For This B - 17
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 01/07/2008 11:38:22 AM
Mike,
 
Do you have some informations to S/N 32098 -457 BG-750
Do you know this crew C3713 or 9713?
 
Phil
 
S/Sgt BUTMAN is buried to gosselies cemetery
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 01/07/2008 11:43:00 AM
Here is the crew list according to MACR 2740
No name and no nose art for that B17
 
Pilote : 1st  Lt. Georges COSENTINO
Co-Pilote: Flight Officer Harold T. SPECK
Navigateur: 2nd  Lt.  Georges Sawyer MALCOM
Mitrailleur de nez : S/Sgt Michael John POLITO
Opérateur radio : S/Sgt Vincent Peter ROMANO
Mitrailleur supérieur : S/Sgt Frank Henry BUTMAN
Mitrailleur ventral : Sgt Clinton OREAN
Mitrailleur de queue :S/Sgt Glenn Millard FAUST
Mitrailleur latéral droit :S/Sgt James Farrell STANLEY
Mitrailleur latéral gauche : S/Sgt Waldo Francis MARIANI
 
 
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 01/07/2008 11:56:40 AM
Panel -
You need to post request on 457th BG Forum OK?
I will look this up
Mike
 
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 01/08/2008 10:15:06 AM
There is an article about that crash, written by a local historian.Drop me a mail on my personnal address if you are interrested in .
 
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 01/08/2008 02:23:40 PM
Hello Phil
 
Yesterday,I wrote you an email...Did you received?
 
autophilippe@hotmail.com
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RE: B17G 42-32007 384th BG 545th BS - 12/09/2008 06:11:21 PM
Can you send me a copy of that article?
rgiancarlo1@comcast.net

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