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B-17F "Tondelayo" #42-29896

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I am brand new to this forum but wondered if anyone might have information on a particular B-17. It was a B-17F #42-29896 and was named "Tondelayo." Specifically I am eager to find information on the markings, paint scheme and armament arrangement on this airplane. I know some B-17s had a central flexible machine gun in the nose while others had 2 ball & socket fittings like the "Memphis Belle." I am also curious if anyone might know a Mr. Elmer Bendiner who was the navigator assigned to this airplane. I am midway through his book which I am enjoying immensely and would like to know what he is doing now. Thanks in advance to any who choose to respond.
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Re: [rafe] B-17F "Tondelayo" #42-29896 2002/09/26 18:27:51 (permalink)
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Rafe,

I would have to do some checking on the armament, but the markings would have been: vertical tail- a large K within a triangle. On the fuselage a FO(star) Y ( sometime later the Y was changed to V). I know there were several 17s named Tondelayo, but there is a strange story about one involving dud German 20mm. I'll have to get back to you on that.

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Re: [Skyguy5] B-17F "Tondelayo" #42-29896 2002/09/27 12:17:03 (permalink)
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Thanks for the information. It is very helpful. I've managed to confirm the nose armament (1 flexible .50 in the center) but couldn't confirm the side codes till now. One follow-up question, are the codes in yellow or white? I'm assuming yellow but wanted to double check. Also, am I correct that the number on the tail is simply the last 5 digits of the serial number? This is the plane from the dud 20mm story. I'm reading a book written by the navigator that tells of being hit by 11 20mm rounds that didn't explode. There was a note inside one that read simply "this is all we can do for you now." Pretty incredible. Anyway, thanks for your response.
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Re: [rafe] B-17F "Tondelayo" #42-29896 2002/09/27 12:35:07 (permalink)
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HI Rafe...to clarify the serial number of the aircraft.....whatever the total numbers of the serial number on the tail, if the tail number starts with a 1 or 2 or 3 or 4......ie..41-2442 the first 4 is dropped and the serial number on that tail would be 12442....if the serial number is 44-6868, the first 4 is dropped and the tail nuimber would be 46868. So the first digit of the number on the tail actually denotes the last digit of the year, of the Production Contract. IF..... you take into account that the first digit of the year is dropped. Simple but confusing.

The Production Contract number is actually the year the Contract was signed....not the actual year of production.....ie...a contract is signed in 1943....some aircraft will be completed in 1944...acceptance will be shown as xx date in 1944, and the tail number will reflect a 43-XXXX.

Jim :-)
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Re: [rafe] B-17F "Tondelayo" #42-29896 2002/09/27 21:46:41 (permalink)
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Rafe,

Thanks for confirming that 42-29896 was THE Tondelayo . Talk about good luck! Maybe you can also confirm it was later lost on a training flight, was ditched, but all crewmen were returned.
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Re: [Skyguy5] B-17F "Tondelayo" #42-29896 2002/09/30 08:53:18 (permalink)
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Hi,

According to the book by the navigator of Tondelayo, they had to ditch coming back from a raid on Stuttgart two weeks after having survived the first Schweinfurt raid. The book is called "Fall of Fortresses" and is outstanding. It's by Elmer Berndiner and has the story of the sabotaged 20mm ammunition plus a host of other anecdotes that really convey the experience of flying on the bomber raids. You can find a number of inexpensive copies on ABEbooks.com. Well worth your time.
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