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Aug 15th 1944 Grotaglie take off disaster

Does any one remember the 449th BG Mission to Southern France on the Invasion day where the first four B-24s from the 718th BS in line & all 40 plus 6 stowaways perished? These men were later interred at the American Cemetary in Bari Italy Aug. 16th 1944
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    Re: [stockwooky] Aug 15th 1944 Grataglia take off disaster 2003/02/11 20:17:34 (permalink)
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    That must have been the 449th BG (B-24) based at Grataglia. This should have posted to the 449th BG Forum under the Mediteranean Theater.

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    Re: [stockwooky] Aug 15th 1944 Grataglia take off disaster 2003/02/11 23:02:29 (permalink)
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    Hi ;-) Are you sure of your date ? from the informatoin available, the 449th at Grotaglie shows one B-24 lost on take-off...not 4 a/c. Please explain.

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    Re: [jpeters140] Aug 15th 1944 Grataglia take off disaster 2003/02/12 00:16:45 (permalink)
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    The ship that was lost on Aug. 15 1944 was " BUCKET OF BOLTS " #41-28600 718th. Sq # 33

    Betzen crew ... Mission 114 Invasion of Southern France, Beach 263A

    Crashed and exploded on night take off. 12 killed No MACR .

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    Re: [late pass] Aug 15th 1944 Grataglia take off disaster 2003/02/12 08:40:32 (permalink)
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    The correct s/n for Bucket of Bolts was 42-95297. (41-28600 was Hoppy, an error in early 449th pubs) The MACR for this incident was 15099. Lt. James G. Allen who was the pilot of my Dad's crew was aboard this aircraft as Instructor Pilot with a new crew. The official report was that the a/c struck power lines at the end of the runway. Rumors persist that sabotage was involved, grenade wired to landing gear. I believe the 450th had four takeoff accidents this day (night, 0230 takeoff time), which is probably what the original poster refers to, and that fueled the sabotage rumors.
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    Re: [mcoffee] Aug 15th 1944 Grataglia take off disaster 2003/02/12 09:17:59 (permalink)
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    A description of activity in the area in the wee hours of August 15, 1944:

    "At 0100 the bombers began to roll down the runway with a maximum bomb and gas load. Search light batteries on the field and in adjoining sister fields of the 47th wing were stabbing the sky as the various elements began to form. As the mission proceeded, intermittent explosions were heard in the vicinity. Later messages revealed that one plane of the 449th exploded on take-off and two of the 376th hit tension wires. All the 450th planes got off without mishap and reached their destination. Although nothing had been officially said regarding the invasion, all personnel seemed to be appraised of whatever "was cooking," and remained on hand to watch the mid-night take-off."

    From 450th Bomb Group Historical Narrative, August 1 to September 1, 1944: [url "http://www.450thbg.com/real/history/1944/august.shtml"]http://www.450thbg.com/real/history/1944/august.shtml[/url]
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    Re: [spec5mac] Aug 15th 1944 Grataglia take off disaster 2003/02/13 09:34:32 (permalink)
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    Yes, I checked the 450th site after I posted. Obviously, I should have checked it before.
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    Re: [jpeters140] Aug 15th 1944 Grataglia take off disaster 2003/02/21 13:43:51 (permalink)
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    Hi Harry is quoting to me while I am writting this. He thinks that the 4 may not have been all from the 718th. He was whisked away from the 1 st accident scene because of bombs going off. He was assigned to the burial detail next morning so the 46 number are not in question.

    Subsequent responses like yours have helped us find data & sites that clarify that evenning.
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