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2012/07/11 15:26:02 (permalink)
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Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request

The Attlebridge Diaries and Attlebridge Arsenal are out of my price range, so if anyone has copies I wonder if you'd look up something for me about the 787th.

Another member on here looked up info on the crash of my uncle's a/c (29 Sept 1944), but the books had little information. He may not have looked up anything other than the crash itself. I'm curious if either the Diaries or Arsenal lists the names of my uncle's full crew. Pictures I have of the plane & crew show 8 men in one and 10 in another, but only 5 crew members (including my uncle) were on board the flight that went down, plus Sgt Wilbur R. Hain (listed as "Observer'), who I've been told may have been part of the ground crew just getting some airtime (I think that's in the Arsenal). I'm wondering what happened to the crew members who were not on the flight. 

I've read stories online by members of the 787th who were part of crews that flew similar missions, but I haven't found any that say what their crew number was. Attlebridge Diaries has my uncle's crew listed as #741. Notably, I think the Diaries has my uncle listed as Marshall E. Lewis, instead of Marshall K. Lewis. His serial # is O-701934, and the plane was 41-29439 ("Gallopin' Ghost")

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Trelaine

 

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    Nickskid
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/11 20:29:15 (permalink)
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    Trelaine -
    Attlebridge Arsenal has the listing for crew number 741 on the Gallopin' Ghost with M E Lewis as captain, but does not have a page dedicated to the Lewis crew.  When Earl Wassom and Chris Brassfield put the book together, they included Air Crew Narratives for all crews that they had a photo of, plus any additional crews that were lost in combat.  It appears that they did not have a photo of your uncle's crew - although there are photos of three other crews who flew the Gallopin' Ghost prior to the crash.
    In the Attlebridge Diaries (p. 128) it is noted
    "The 787th History tells about a tragedy on this date:
    One crew (741) was lost during the time the squadron was hauling gas.  All members were killed when the plane crashed near St. Quenton, France on 29 September.  They included Lts. Marshall Lewis, Sheldon Adler and Herbert Tinard; T/Sgts Paul Miller and Samuel Dragoon, and Sgt. Wilbur Hain.  Sgt. Hain was the assistant crew chief on the plane that crashed, making his the first death in the squadron in the ground echelon.
    On 12 October, K. Nelson and W. Flannery (787th Adj. and Arm. O) were ordered to Lioncourt, France to investigate the accident and determine burial situation, 7 dy TD."
    That's all I could find.
     
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/11 21:53:40 (permalink)
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    Thank you John!
     
    I'm a bit dense, so every time I read a post I learn something. I was under the impression that a crew always flew the same a/c, but now that I think about it, that doesn't make sense. Am I correct in thinking that they usually flew the same plane, but may have flown different ones as assigned? Also what does "7 dy TD" mean?
     
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/11 22:03:24 (permalink)
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    7 dy TD  -probably means-  7 days Temporary Duty  (the time they were in France).
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/12 00:21:52 (permalink)
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    My understanding is that crews generally stayed with one plane. But as crews were reassigned or rotated out of duty, the plane could be assigned to a new pilot and crew.  At times, entire crews were transferred between Bomb Groups, which left an aircraft available for a new crew.  My father's plane, the Laiden Maid in the 786th, had six different crews during the period from 1943-1945.  His crew flew that plane, then another after the Laiden Maid crashed due to battle damage.
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/12 04:51:07 (permalink)
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    PICs & More Info on GALLOPIN GHOST (V1)...
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    Daniel L. Stockton *B-24 Best Web "Over 12000 Images!!"...

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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/12 05:08:36 (permalink)
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    Thanks Daniel. I already got those pictures off of your site. I just wish I could ID the men.
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/12 18:12:25 (permalink)
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    Et AL ,
    Earl Wassom is Chaplain of 8th AF Historical Society.
    Contact Joe Keeley 8th AFHS and ask Him if He
    could put you in touch with Earl.
    fxe84@optline.net
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/13 01:12:53 (permalink)
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    Thank you, I'll give that a try. I found the name of another crew member; I'm crossing my fingers he's still with us.
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2012/07/23 18:45:51 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately, the email I sent to Joe Keeley bounced back twice. Is there another address for him?
     
    Update: I found the correct email address for Keeley, it's  fxe84@optonline.net. Hopefully, I'll get a response.
    post edited by Ocelot - 2012/07/24 20:05:53
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    Re:Attlebridge Diaries/Attlebridge Arsenal look-up request 2013/01/03 14:47:16 (permalink)
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    I was visiting with my Father the other day and he mentioned some of his observations of aircraft allotment.
    Although their names were stenciled on "DAMIFINO" they also flew 3 or 4 other aircraft. The planes were constantly under repairs / maintenance so which plane a crew flew was a matter of what was available on each particular day.  
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