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Art Sulteen
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12/20/2007 10:26:40 PM
Hi Everyone, It is very exciting for me to be here on the forum. I apologize if I didn't fully exploit the research capabilities available here on the site. I work for FedEx and this time of year is just crazy!!! I just couldn't wait to launch this torpedo in the pond after seeing some of you're research capabilities!! I very recently met a pilot from the 8th AF who has trouble remembering his unit histories and he is just a phenomenal man!! I am an artist and want to do a Jug or 51 for him before Jan. 5th 2008. His name is Arthur Sulteen and he looks just like 'Rooster' Cogburn complete with eyepatch. His serial number was 15383143 and he says he flew with Don Gentile. That is why I am posting this on the 4th site here. He flew 'razorback' Jugs and P-51s. His aircraft were named Jayne. I have found reference to 353rd FG P-51s by that name but am uncertain of any facts. 'Art' almost died recently and I cherish our time together. I would appreciate any information anyone could provide. BTW, all of his documentation was lost in a fire many years ago. Cheers, Kyle
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/21/2007 11:40:58 AM
Kyle- I have checked 4th FG and 353d FG Rosters - Art Sulteen is not listed. No 8th AF Air Victories credited to Art Sulteen. Not to say he is one , but there are imposters out there . You should do more research. Mike
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/21/2007 12:37:51 PM
Kyle, I have Arthur C. Sulteen arriving in New York 31 August 1945 aboard the Queen Elizabeth. It shows him a Corporal with the same s/n as you posted. Possibly you may have luck with the units of the other men listed on the document and that might lead you to his outfit. That may also be a dead end, he may have been sent home on points and therefore none of the guys listed were in related units but its worth a shot. Dave [image]local://upfiles/12430/73C27C2D419E4339B572669EA4335930.jpg[/image]
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David Procaccini Grandson of Sgt. Louis Procaccini 38th ADG Repair Squadron North Africa-Italy-France Achivist, Quonset Air Museum Historian 38th Depot Repair Sqdn
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/21/2007 12:46:01 PM
Thanks Dave - Kyle , His MOS was 055 - He was a Clerk. Mike
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/21/2007 02:05:40 PM
Kyle, I found an Arthur C. Sulteen listed in the 834th Bomb Squadron, 486th Bomb Group, out of Sudbury. Also not listed as aircrew. Cheers, Zig
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/21/2007 02:07:10 PM
Dave, I bet all the guys on the ship list you posted were from the same unit. Note the " ASR " number for each man. This is the Adjusted Service Rating .... the " points " system for being discharged. All of them have different ASR numbers, so my guess is that they are all one unit being sent home, and each has a different number for when he will actually be discharged.
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/21/2007 08:03:28 PM
SHAEF, You're probably right. Some guys have low numbers. Dave
David Procaccini Grandson of Sgt. Louis Procaccini 38th ADG Repair Squadron North Africa-Italy-France Achivist, Quonset Air Museum Historian 38th Depot Repair Sqdn
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/21/2007 08:56:37 PM
Okay, I really appreciate all of your help here. I am really disappointed and will be seeing him soon. Will try picking his brain a little further just to see if I can get more details. Hopefully his daughter can help me out a little more as well. Can't say enough about this forum and your capabilities to unearth the past. Cheers, Kyle
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/22/2007 02:37:06 AM
Kyle, go easy, and don't be completely disappointed. He is a vet after all, although it appears to be one with a few " There I was, flat on my back, surrounded by Focke-Wulfs..... " stories. Unfortunately for history, the popular culture only includes the "ace fighter pilot and the gravely wounded bombardier who dropped a bomb on the Japanese battleship using a rubber-band and paper clip because the Norden was shot up " as heroes. While the guys at the Sharp End deserve special recognition, I hate the fact that so many vets who spent the war doing the jobs like clerking, supplying, turning wrenches, etc, feel that their service was unimportant. As has been stated on this forum, a lot of them feel it was so unimportant that they never joined veteran associations, and so their history, and by extension, part of OUR HISTORY, will be lost with them. And some even wind up telling stories that might be a stretch because of it. All those behind-the-lines jobs may not have been " sexy ", but they were necessary to winning the war, and I really hope that more guys will record their wartime service, no matter what it was. Every story is a little piece of a huge mosaic that made Allied victory possible.
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/22/2007 11:25:39 AM
SHAEF, Thanks for the comments. I completely agree with you and am a firm believer that every veteran is on an equal footing. Art's life has been rejuvinated by our museum and his entire family (three generations) comes out with him to visit with me and the staff on a regular basis. They hang on every word he says. Don't want to disappoint them mostly. We have a group of veterans that get together at the museum every month. They range from LST crewmen to a VF(N)-41 Hellcat driver, Thud driver, to cooks, etc. etc. I love each of them the same and it is magical every time we get together. They are mostly my personal friends and I guess we have around 25-50 show up but the number is growing. I truly didn't mean to come across as being personally dejected. As well, every day is Veterans and Memorial Day to me. To avoid any other confusion, our wonderful vets from all other eras are welcomed with open arms and endear the same amount of respect!! Each and every one is so important and unique!!! Also it is amazing at what a cross section of vets you can find in a community when you start looking!!! Kyle
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RE: Art Sulteen
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12/22/2007 11:42:08 AM
BTW, I'm still not completely giving up on Art yet. We had a book signing at our museum by a guy that flew our A-7A Corsair off the USS America in 1968. There were two of his other squadron mates there as well!!!!! I invited Art and his family and some of my other WW II buds. We all had a great time and Art goes into some pretty amazing details about his career. I got that serail number off the research part of this site and it may not even be my Art. If Zig found reference to another guy with the same name, I won't quite give up yet. That serial number was the only one that came up in my search. But.....................if he was a clerk or whatever, he will still be my dear friend and I will appreciate him just the same. I took some notes while we talked last time. I'll dig them out and look for any clues. You guys are awesome here!! Also, a good friend flew his DeHavilland Tiger Moth in for the event and Art was very familiar with the a/c, etc. Kyle
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