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23-3-1944,time;11.00,crashed;Bruinehaar/Vriezeveen,Holland,B-24H,42-52277,453 BG/733 BS,1/Lt.J.W.Hamilton
 
29-4-1944,crashed;North-Sea,B-24H,42-50322,453 BG/734 BS,1/Lt.F.R.Tye

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    j9kern
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    RE: 1/Lt.J.W.Hamilton,F.R.Tye (permalink)
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    My dad, Lt William Kern was the new navigator (transferred from another plane) on Hamilton's crew when the plane went down.  He spent the duration in Stalag Luft 1. 
     
    Funny how so many refer to the 453rd as Stewart's BG when he didn't take it over until after the March 1944 crash of Hamilton's plane.
     
    Do you know the name of Hamilton's plane?  Dad can't recall it because of having changed over.
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    RE: 1/Lt.J.W.Hamilton,F.R.Tye (permalink)
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    Dear Kern,
     
    Send a mail to ; Theo Boiten ; margryt.de.groot@hetnet.nl
     
    maybe he can help you with the nickname,
     
    regards Jaap

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    Re: RE: 1/Lt.J.W.Hamilton,F.R.Tye (permalink)
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    Does anybody has a crewlist with the army serial numbers of this crew?
    29-4-1944,crashed;North-Sea,B-24H,42-50322,453 BG/734 BS,1/Lt.F.R.Tye
    I'm looking for information for a friend of ours.
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    Re: RE: 1/Lt.J.W.Hamilton,F.R.Tye (permalink)
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    Pilot: Tye Francis R   O-737902   2nd Lt
    CP: Larson, Willard R O-685251  2nd Lt
    Nav: Gordon, Fred O-809351   2nd Lt
    Bomb: Skidgell, John W     O-663672   1st Lt
    ROM: Hills, Kenyon G  11102662    S/Sgt
    TailG:  Leighton, Harold A , Jr 32833504   Sgt
    BallG:  DeLeon, Manuel C 18060438   Sgt
    TopT: Mackey, Maurice P  18183067   S/Sgt
    RtWaist:  Nolen, Thomas E 19175010  Sgt
    LftWaist: Litton, Frank J 17089345  Sgt
     
    All listed DED  except Nolan listed as KIA.

     
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    Re: RE: 1/Lt.J.W.Hamilton,F.R.Tye (permalink)
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    The description of the shootdown says.   Ship was hit in #3 engine just South of Bremen on the way out.
    Attack was by ME 109.  Ship was seen going down at 20,000 feet,  1400 hours.   Men seen to leave ship but did not open chutes ,  delayed jump?      Gives location as Dummer Lake Region.
     
    Weather conditions given as   8-10/10 cumulus base  3,000 to 4,000 feet  top 9,000 to 10,000.   3-5/10 high clouds at 26,000 feet and visibility of 10-15 miles.  Moderate, non-persistent contrails at 24,000 feet.
     
    Included Map in MACR 4493 shows circled area labeled:   Dummer Lake region
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    Re: RE: 1/Lt.J.W.Hamilton,F.R.Tye (permalink)
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    Thank you for the information.
     
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    RE: 1/Lt.J.W.Hamilton,F.R.Tye (permalink)
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    Hello Mr. Kern,
    My father inlaw was on that plane when it went down Roland Kleppin pow for 19 months at Stalag 17  . Here is a couple of pic's one is the crew with the plane and the other is the crew list. Maybe the name is one the tail or the other side of the nose..
    Here is last mission..
    The target was the airfield at Handorf, near Munster. 21 planes were dispatched
    and the marshalling yards at Munster were bombed as the secondary target due
    to adverse weather conditions over the Primary. Lt. Hamilton and his crew of
    the 733rd Squadron were lost on this mission. Lt. Hamilton, flying B-24 serial no.
    42-52277, crashed near Bruinehaar, Holland, The crewmembers were:
    1/Lt. James W. Hamilton (P) KIA
    F/0 George T. Kina (CP) POW, Ittbrbeck, Germany
    2/Lt. William F. Kern (NAV) POW, Oldendorf, Germany
    2/Lt. Henry C. Kier (BOM) POW, Oldendorf, Germany
    T/Sgt. John F. Smith (R) POW, Itterbeek, Germany
    S/Sgt. Jerome J. Norris (TG) POW, Itterbeck, Germany
    S/Sgt. John D. MacKenzie (BTG) KIA
    S/Sgt. Owen M. Haugen (TTG) POW, Itterbeck, Germany
    S/Sgt. Roland P. Kleppin (RWG) POW, Langeveen, Holland
    T/Sgt. Alfred Scott (LWG) POW, Itterbeck, Germany
    Lt. Hamilton is buried in the USA and S/Sgt. MacKenzie rests at the US
    Cemetery of Margraten, Holland.


     

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